3rd Round Draft Picks Under Hurney

[SixMileDrive]

2002

• Will Witherspoon

2003

• Mike Seidman

2004

• Travelle Wharton

2005

• Evan Mathis
• Atiyyah Ellison

2006

• James Anderson
• Rashad Butler

2007

• Charles Johnson

2008

• Charles Godfrey
• Dan Conner

2009

• Corey Irvin

2010

• Brandon Lafell
• Eric Norwood

2011

• Terell McClain
• Sione Fua

2012

• None

I think I'm going to be sick.

[SixMileDrive]

15 picks. Can you name any players aside from Johnson and Witherspoon who played better than KB with Carolina?

Wharton? Probably not.

Godfrey? No. 

Lafell. No++

Mathis: Not with CAR

Everyone else:

Ick...

2/15.

[Mr. Scot]

If you want a really  fun exercise, go back and catalog the wide receivers that were picked during the first Hurney era.

Oy. 

[JARROD]

1 hour ago, SixMileDrive said:

2002

• Will Witherspoon

2003

• Mike Seidman

2004

• Travelle Wharton

2005

• Evan Mathis
• Atiyyah Ellison

2006

• James Anderson
• Rashad Butler

2007

• Charles Johnson

2008

• Charles Godfrey
• Dan Conner

2009

• Corey Irvin

2010

• Brandon Lafell
• Eric Norwood

2011

• Terell McClain
• Sione Fua

2012

• None

I think I'm going to be sick.

Honestly when you put it like that, I wish I had a princess bride gif of you keep saying that word but I don't think you know what it means,.. 7/15 decent picks? Charles Johnson is big money haha.

wharton, Witherspoon Charles Johnson, those were home run 3 round picks. Brandon Lafell was not bad, Dan Connor was good minus the concussions,  Godfrey was decent,  and so was James Anderson who had one of the best all time, he got jacked up clips at the bucs  

so 50%? Not bad.

[trucpfan]

Isn't he here to help us find a new GM I know we joke a lot but isn't that his title interim who's helping us find the next gm nothing else or does he have a chance to do more rewarding I can see Pep  getting a huge one year extension if Marty runs the show

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, trucpfan said:

Isn't he here to help us find a new GM I know we joke a lot but isn't that his title interim who's helping us find the next gm nothing else or does he have a chance to do more rewarding I can see getting a huge one year extension if Marty runs the show

Interims don't trade the #1 WR on the roster. Many of us suspected that this was whole interim thing was a farce to begin with and this move all but confirms that suspicion. 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, trucpfan said:

Isn't he here to help us find a new GM I know we joke a lot but isn't that his title interim who's helping us find the next gm nothing else or does he have a chance to do more rewarding I can see getting a huge one year extension if Marty runs the show

It's been confirmed before that having him be the permanent GM is an option.

So basically, the guy who is in charge of deciding who the next GM will be is a candidate for the position himself.

That's an arrangement that takes stupidity to new heights.. 

[SixMileDrive]

7 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Honestly when you put it like that, I wish I had a princess bride gif of you keep saying that word but I don't think you know what it means,.. 7/15 decent picks? Charles Johnson is big money haha.

wharton, Witherspoon Charles Johnson, those were home run 3 round picks. Brandon Lafell was not bad, Dan Connor was good minus the concussions,  Godfrey was decent,  and so was James Anderson who had one of the best all time, he got jacked up clips at the bucs  

so 50%? Not bad.

The issue is that we aren't comparing his third round success rate to other third round picks. We're comparing his third round success rate to our starting WR on a team that doesn't really have a great WR corps. That comparison doesn't look so great... 

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, SixMileDrive said:

The issue is that we aren't comparing his third round success rate to other third round picks. We're comparing his third round success rate to our starting WR on a team that doesn't really have a great WR corps. That comparison doesn't look so great... 

Oh His receiver picks were terrible. And cutting Keyshawn when we drafted Dwayne Jarrett has to go down as one of his dumbest. Keyshawn may have fixed Dwayne on and off the field and maybe he wouldn't have been a waste of sperm,...

what was the other little dude he drafted that year too? Lasted like 2 years?

brandon lafell was probably the closest thing to a success Marty had,.. and he was below average at best. 

Marty passed on Keenan Allen when he fell to the 3rd round. Should be shot just for that alone! Im still pissed about it. He was my pick that year,...passed on Alshon Jeffrey too,.. bastard.

[Snake]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's been confirmed before that having him be the permanent GM is an option.

So basically, the guy who is in charge of deciding who the next GM will be is a candidate for the position himself.

That's an arrangement that takes stupidity to new heights.. 

Not really surprising when your owner who has never even fired a coach mid season fires the best GM in Panthers history right before the season. I have no idea what JRs plan is but it's not winning and if I was a PSL owner my stomach would be churning. 

[coralreefer_1]

21 hours ago, Snake said:

Not really surprising when your owner who has never even fired a coach mid season fires the best GM in Panthers history right before the season. I have no idea what JRs plan is but it's not winning and if I was a PSL owner my stomach would be churning. 

Isn't it obvious what his plan is? The man runs a BUSINESS. As long as people are buying PSL's, and he can field a team JUST good enough to get people interested then the ticket sales go on...concessions go on, and the money keeps flowing!

If we played to a stadium barely full on a regular basis, there might be some incentive to invest and actually TRY to win. But if he can make a good amount of profit with minimal effort then why wouldn't he? Anyone that runs a business understand this. A nice steady flow of income is far better than sporadic "bursts" of income.

[electro's horse]

Terrell McClain has actually turned into a really good player. Sometimes it just takes longer for the light to turn on. Just like Mathis.

After 2007 the draft was basically all Hurney; Fox had been forced out. 

Really the worst pick there was Corvey Irvin. I mean I have no idea what Hurney saw in that guy. I watched his entire career at UGA and had never heard of him

[Snake]

3 hours ago, coralreefer_1 said:

Isn't it obvious what his plan is? The man runs a BUSINESS. As long as people are buying PSL's, and he can field a team JUST good enough to get people interested then the ticket sales go on...concessions go on, and the money keeps flowing!

If we played to a stadium barely full on a regular basis, there might be some incentive to invest and actually TRY to win. But if he can make a good amount of profit with minimal effort then why wouldn't he? Anyone that runs a business understand this. A nice steady flow of income is far better than sporadic "bursts" of income.

It's getting there. This man didn't mind a empty stadium in 10 either. 

[SCO96]

This is what concerns me about Hurney. He doesn't have a scouting background (unlike Gettleman). He did a good job with his 1st round choices, and a pretty good number on his 2nd round picks. After that, you can only shake your head at some of his picks and trades decisions on draft day

Beane would have been the ideal GM. Not only is he smart, but he seems to have an eye for talent. Look at the moves he's made in Buffalo. That's isn't a very talented team from top to bottom but he's got them a 5-2 and in the thick of the playoff hunt.

Now with Beane and Gettleman gone, do we even have a competent scout in the personnel department in Carolina?