Personal foul occurred after the play, shouldn't have offset the safety

[LA_Panther]

Bogut also almost called a false start on us with the hand sign when the call was actually encroachment... he had a rough day 

[TheCasillas]

AGAIN... THE HOLD WAS NOT CALLED ON THE RT- THE WAS HOLD WAS CALLED ON THE LG. THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT A SAFETY.

[beastson]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

AGAIN... THE HOLD WAS NOT CALLED ON THE RT- THE WAS HOLD WAS CALLED ON THE LG. THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT A SAFETY.

I dont care, Peppers was held. They need to do a better job and make the right calls.

[TheCasillas]

Just now, beastson said:

I dont care, Peppers was held. They need to do a better job and make the right calls.

agreed on the poor reffing, I am just wanting it to be clear... that there was not a bad rule enforcement, there was another hold that was called.

[ClayTown]

5 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

agreed on the poor reffing, I am just wanting it to be clear... that there was not a bad rule enforcement, there was another hold that was called.

It was bad rule enforcement. If what you’re saying is true, then it should have been an automatic first down for TB.

And I don’t know who the hold was on because they didn’t call the right number all day. The officials consistently called the wrong number on D all day

[Montsta]

Jerome Boger is the worst ref in the NFL and isn’t really close. Dude is garbage. 

[WarHeel]

1 hour ago, xav8tor said:

 

Yeah, true on some of those bad penalty calls, but as far as TB player numbers go, man, that "font," especially from the side or on a wrinkled jersey, is not exactly well designed for immediate comprehension accuracy. If the same font was used on certain aircraft instruments, it would be raining airplanes on a daily basis.

Agreed. But one was definitely on Star. He called out 50 something or other. Nothing wrong with our font. The dude was just awful.

[Thanatos]

I am curious though. What we are saying here I think doesn't quite make sense. Think about this way. Are you guys that if it was not a safety, they should first enforce the holding call, and then give the Bucs 15 yards and a first down for the dead ball foul? Or are you saying if it wasn't a safety, then they should offset?

[KillerKat]

4 hours ago, Montsta said:

Jerome Boger is the worst ref in the NFL and isn’t really close. Dude is garbage. 

He called the wrong number at least 3 times

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

AGAIN... THE HOLD WAS NOT CALLED ON THE RT- THE WAS HOLD WAS CALLED ON THE LG. THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT A SAFETY.

Peppers was definitely held.

But if what you are saying is true then, actually, the Panthers got a break.  Because, if the hold was on the field of play and with the PF after the play, then the Bucs would have netted 5 yards and an automatic 1st down.

[Icebox]

5 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

The holding call wasn’t called on the player holding peppers, they missed that. The hold call was called on the dude who flopped. He was holding Star while Winston ran up the field.

The commentators were too dumb to listen to the refs when they called the jersey numbers and continue to say it was the player blocking Peppers.

You are making a mighty big assumption: that the officials called out the correct number for the offending player.

That's not an assumption I would make based on the rest of the game.

[ThPantherFan]

6 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Safety should have stood; 15 yards applied to the free kick.

Refs fuging blew it. 

That they did.  Wasn't the only faulty call either.  I think some of the refs are getting worse.

[RoaringRiot]

11 minutes ago, Icebox said:

You are making a mighty big assumption: that the officials called out the correct number for the offending player.

That's not an assumption I would make based on the rest of the game.

Agreed. Wouldn't surprise me if he called it wrong because he had the number of the player who Star pushed in his head. Peppers was 100% held and it was obvious. 

[tiger7_88]

Here's the question as to whether or not the hold was called in the endzone or the field of play... did the referee ever indicate a safety?  Because if it was the referee (or the other backfield official) that called the hold, they usually immediately indicate the safety.

Of course, this ref is Booger, so no telling what he could do wrong making calls or proceduarlly.