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Panther fans have been watching Shula/RonRon ball so long ya'll forgotten what a true #1 WR looks like.


Teach_Panther

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It is sad, and we should all feel sad about it. It's like watching a good friend who has been in a bad relationship so long that they have come to see their spouse's abusive behavior as normal.

Let's just say, if prime Steve Smith had been on the field today, ya'll honestly think we have 180 yards passing? Look at what Antonio Brown does for the Steelers. Teams regularly use triple coverage on him.  Ya'll forget what it is like that your #1 WR practically force safety help on every play? Or a guy who's can win the 50-50 ball in tight, single coverage, then break the tackle and take it for a score? How about playing teams in zone coverage and letting your #1 line up anywhere on the field and what a huge advantage that is for an offense? How players like that stretch the defense and open up route trees for the other receivers and the running game?

The bottom line is that in the most prolific passing era in the history of NFL, the Panthers have a front office and coaching staff that doesn't appear to value the most dynamic position in the game.  The only reason it is successful at all is because what Cam does running the football, and this puts an enormous pressure on the QB in the limited opportunities he gets to make a play with his arm.  So, until that changes, you are going to have games like this one, the one against the Bears, etc., where the entire offense looks completely frigging inept because the Panthers literally are inept at a key position in terms of play making potential. 

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8 minutes ago, Teach_Panther said:

It is sad, and we should all feel sad about it. It's like watching a good friend who has been in a bad relationship so long that they have come to see their spouse's abusive behavior as normal.

Let's just say, if prime Steve Smith had been on the field today, ya'll honestly think we have 180 yards passing? Look at what Antonio Brown does for the Steelers. Teams regularly use triple coverage on him.  Ya'll forget what it is like that your #1 WR practically force safety help on every play? Or a guy who's can win the 50-50 ball in tight, single coverage, then break the tackle and take it for a score? How about playing teams in zone coverage and letting your #1 line up anywhere on the field and what a huge advantage that is for an offense? How players like that stretch the defense and open up route trees for the other receivers and the running game?

The bottom line is that in the most prolific passing era in the history of NFL, the Panthers have a front office and coaching staff that doesn't appear to value the most dynamic position in the game.  The only reason it is successful at all is because what Cam does running the football, and this puts an enormous pressure on the QB in the limited opportunities he gets to make a play with his arm.  So, until that changes, you are going to have games like this one, the one against the Bears, etc., where the entire offense looks completely frigging inept because the Panthers literally are inept at a key position in terms of play making potential. 

I'm with you mostly.   We don't really have anyone on the outside that can consistently win a 1 on 1.   We used to have Ginn who regardless of what you thought about his hands, teams had to respect his deep speed thus he was able to get situations where he could get open.  We saw a lot today where teams played 5-7 yards off the ball and we had no one who could get open quickly. 

That being said, as much as everyone blaming the offensive game plan.  Cam was missing badly.  Not a little off , but horribly.   For 1 series everything looked fine, then it started again.  His streakiness is very confusing.  I don't know if it's a trying not to make a mistake thing, a mechanical thing, whatever.  But there were times where it wouldn't have mattered who the WR on the field was because the throws were that inaccurate.  So blame Shula all you want, but there is no reason to gloss over the spray and pray nature of Cam's game today.  He was missing passes that no NFL QB should miss. 

What's so frustrating is, it's very possible for him to come out next week and light it up.    I can blame the OC for not scoring enough points, or running the incorrect type of offense for the personnel we have.  But why do people consistently blame the OC for Cam throwing badly, or being mechanically unsound.  That first pick he threw today, both feet were damn near off the ground.  

If anything I blame Dorsey.  If he is the QB coach he is doing nothing. 

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

JuJu Smith-Schuster had more total yards than our entire team today. Good thing we drafted that running back out of Ohio State in the 2nd round instead of an actual WR!

Yeh I thought we had Juju and instead we drafted mr glass.

thanks Dave. 

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13 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

The offense looks like something out of the 1950's. This franchise is stuck in the past.

Rivera is stuck in the past. Remember who he played for and how they were succesful. But richardson hired him so it just falls even further back in my opinion. 

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Panthers fans will tell you

When the last time a star WR won a SB?

What I do know is a star WR keep your offense competitive. But no let me post go after OBJ for 2019 and most will say no. Then they sit up here and blame Cam when the offense sucks.

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