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1 minute ago, Mikey815 said:

Funny how many of those guys were not voted to the pro bowl Pff rated Harrison Smith the best player at any position and he wasn’t voted to the pro bowl What a joke

Makes you wonder, what’s the bigger joke: the pro bowl or pff 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Might wanna enjoy Norwell while you can. Voth thinks someone else will be writing his paychecks next year.

(Giants are a possibility)

Said it last week....Norwell is as good as gone now that DG is in the league again...and they need O Line help in the worst way.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Might wanna enjoy Norwell while you can. Voth thinks someone else will be writing his paychecks next year.

(Giants are a possibility)

We'll see... I really hope not. Norwell did not allow one single hit on Cam all year. And he's our best run blocker by far. If you don't pay a guy like him then who the hell do you pay? If DG was here he would've broken his own rule and extended Norwell during the season, that's how damn good he's been. 

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Keep in mind this is the "PFF" version of the NFL All-Pro team...not the official version. I questioned it when I saw Matt Ryan as 2nd team QB and Dion Lewis as 2nd team RB...stopped from there. The official All-Pro team is much more prestigious and isn't decided by fans like the Pro Bowl.

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