A little historical quirk (Re: Shula)

[tiger7_88]

14 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Or maybe a no huddle/Hurry up offense?

That thing Cam is super good at?

I was laughing yesterday every time Aikman professed his confusion at the Carolina offense not using the hurry-up/no-huddle because he knew it was something that Cam was very good at.

Hilarious!

[Mr. Scot]

23 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

I remember you not wanting Shurmur

Yep. Because he's a WCO guy. 

I didn't think rolling with a West Coast Offense would be a good idea because we didn't have players that suited that kind of attack. Given what we've seen since, I now find myself wishing we would have taken our chances.

(that probably would have altered some of our offensive personnel choices too)

[Snake]

9 hours ago, beastson said:

Yeah and as I said to panthers55 what about 2015?

If Shula offense didn't exceed with KB and Smith and doing better without a number 1, Idk what gives anybody the idea it will perform with a number 1 receiver. Is the excuse those guys weren't "true" number 1s? Watching the play calling and design of the Saints offense, we need more than just a number 1. We've been fooled long enough.

Shula isn't a terrible OC. He definitely has downfalls but expecting someone with his many downfalls to overcome a unit of Jags is asking for trouble. Cam can mask a bunch but he can't catch the ball. 

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Or maybe a no huddle/Hurry up offense?

That thing Cam is super good at?

A quick route that doesn’t start 5 yards behind the los?

A toss sweep to the fast RB we just drafted?

A TE screen to Olsen?

Bootlegs?

Slants?

People have been asking why we don't run bootlegs with Newton for years.

Aikman yesterday spent the entire game asking why we weren't speeding up the pace.

[panthers55]

I thought Hue Jackson was available because he was fired after going 0-16. Did a good job???? I heard that Shurmur was a hot candidate but at least some of that was because he could bring Case Keenum along.  I also heard Jeff Fisher was a hot candidate as well. Seems we keep recycling the same old losers around.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

I thought Hue Jackson and Pat Shurmurwas available because he was fired after going 0-16. Did a good job???? I heard that Shurmur was a hot candidate but at least some of that was because he could bring Case Keenum along.  I also heard Jeff Fisher was a hot candidate as well. Seems we keep recycling the same old losers around.

Hue Jackson didn't go 0-16 till this year. Shurmur never did.

And I'm pretty sure Jeff Fisher has never been a candidate for an offensive coordinator job anywhere.

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

People have been asking why we don't run bootlegs with Newton for years.

Aikman yesterday spent the entire game asking why we weren't speeding up the pace.

Our offense wasn't the problem yesterday, the defense was. Let's hope Wilks get a head coaching job and leaves.

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hue Jackson didn't go 0-16 till this year. Shurmur never did.

And I'm pretty sure Jeff Fisher has never been a candidate for an offensive coordinator job anywhere.

That right Cleveland won 1 game last year so they won 1 game in 32 tries for Jackson. Great job.

Jeff Fisher is talking about Indy and the bears whether they are looking at him or not....

As for Shurmur his record as a head coach was 4-12 and 5-11 and he got canned for Cleveland. Didnt count the interim job for Philly as it wasn't his team. Great job....

Truth is none of the 3 should be head coaching in the NFL. They are all coordinators who don't seem to have good head coaching skills. Which is fine. Unlike the huddle which thinks your worth as a coordinator should be based on how many head coaching jobs you get or how you do, some of us know they are different job sets and they aren't really related to each other. And no going to a west coast offense would be stupid given that Cam doesn't have great mechanics and doesn't anticipate and throw to spots with great accuracy which are all very important in a West Coast offense.

[hepcat]

10 hours ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Look, I understand criticizing Shula last year but how the hell are you making him the scape goat right now?  He drew up a damn good game plan imo.  He was able to put up 400+ yards in the Dome with Cam, CMC, Stewart and an island of misfit toys. We should have scored more than 26 points, Cam missed a wide open CMC for 6 early and Funchess couldn't locate what could have been the winning TD.  Gano also left off 3 more. I think Shula was actually pretty solid all year considering the injuries he was dealt with.

If there's a coordinator that we should be criticizing right now, it's Wilks.  Stop bringing up Shula.  He was prepared to win today, Wilks wasn't. 

Man as much as I’ve hated on Shula the past few years, you’re right. He can’t make scrub receivers get separation. They need to sign some veteran WRs or just close up shop on any hope of winning games next year 

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

That right Cleveland won 1 game last year so they won 1 game in 32 tries for Jackson. Great job.

Jeff Fisher is talking about Indy and the bears whether they are looking at him or not....

As for Shurmur his record as a head coach was 4-12 and 5-11 and he got canned for Cleveland. Didnt count the interim job for Philly as it wasn't his team. Great job....

Truth is none of the 3 should be head coaching in the NFL. They are all coordinators who don't seem to have good head coaching skills. Which is fine. Unlike the huddle which thinks your worth as a coordinator should be based on how many head coaching jobs you get or how you do, some of us know they are different job sets and they aren't really related to each other. And no going to a west coast offense would be stupid given that Cam doesn't have great mechanics and doesn't anticipate and throw to spots with great accuracy which are all very important in a West Coast offense.

I'm pretty sure I didn't say I wanted them as head coach. Just OC, where they've actually been very successful.

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

People have been asking why we don't run bootlegs with Newton for years.

Aikman yesterday spent the entire game asking why we weren't speeding up the pace.

I mean, it has to be that Cam isn't accurate at all when rolling right?

I honestly can't think of another reason we wouldn't run far more boots.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

I mean, it has to be that Cam isn't accurate at all when rolling right?

I honestly can't think of another reason we wouldn't run far more boots.

Got me.

One of several things I'll probably never understand about how we run our offense.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Got me.

One of several things I'll probably never understand about how we run our offense.

That has to be the reason...has to be.

 

I know Cam isn't a "scrambler", but my goodness, that should be a staple of our offense, and it's something we never do.

[SmokinwithWilly]

9 hours ago, Cartel de Carolina said:

See how often Saints used drags over the middle? 

This beats man and zone and opens up the middle of the field. 

Which is what they keep killing us on. 

Panthers rarely do that. 

They pass deep on play action like San Fran. 

Shula should take notes. 

He did but someone took his etch-a-sketch and shook it.