Eric Washington

[Woodie]

The real problem with going after anyone from outside the organization is the looming change in ownership.  Most quality DC candidates wouldn't want to come into a situation that will have loads of distractions and a strong possibility that it could also be a one and done situation.  They would likely want a little more stability.

The only guys that would be interested are guys that are either on the street and would to take anything offered, or guys who have already proven to be mediocre DC's, at best, and are just happy to get another chance.    

[DaveThePanther2008]

2 hours ago, Woodie said:

The real problem with going after anyone from outside the organization is the looming change in ownership.  Most quality DC candidates wouldn't want to come into a situation that will have loads of distractions and a strong possibility that it could also be a one and done situation.  They would likely want a little more stability.

The only guys that would be interested are guys that are either on the street and would to take anything offered, or guys who have already proven to be mediocre DC's, at best, and are just happy to get another chance.    

This defense is not far from being a stellar group.  Any incoming DC would love to have the opportunity to work with Luke, TD and Peppers (providing they stay one more year)

[brandon_87]

IMO... Let them go and get new people in all together. I'm tired of seeing soft coverage, regardless of who is calling for it. I never see it from any other team and I'm tired of seeing it from us.

[cookinbrak]

1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

This defense is not far from being a stellar group.  Any incoming DC would love to have the opportunity to work with Luke, TD and Peppers (providing they stay one more year)

The defense is already great, it's the way they're used. It's amazing that people that are up in arms about Shula not knowing how to use the talent are the same ones who think Wilks is great.

[DaveThePanther2008]

18 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

The defense is already great, it's the way they're used. It's amazing that people that are up in arms about Shula not knowing how to use the talent are the same ones who think Wilks is great.

I will admit I was one of them but seems he had no way of disguising our defense and pretty much said... Here we come...sadly they said OK and gashed the crap out of us.

McDermott was good at disguising our defense making it hard to pick us apart.  McDermott>Wilks

[imminent rogaine]

I like Del Rio in theory. Does he only run a 3-4?

[trueblade]

4 openings left : Arizona, Detroit, Indianapolis, and Giants. Patricia, McDaniels, Swartz and Shurmer are hot names. I'm not sure if Wilks gets a gig this year.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, imminent rogaine said:

I like Del Rio in theory. Does he only run a 3-4?

He ran a 4-3 under Fox.

[Mr. Scot]

6 hours ago, Woodie said:

The real problem with going after anyone from outside the organization is the looming change in ownership.  Most quality DC candidates wouldn't want to come into a situation that will have loads of distractions and a strong possibility that it could also be a one and done situation.  They would likely want a little more stability.

The only guys that would be interested are guys that are either on the street and would to take anything offered, or guys who have already proven to be mediocre DC's, at best, and are just happy to get another chance.    

Valid, though Rivera getting a two year extension may make a difference.

[hepcat]

Begs the question - how much of the defense scheme is Rivera's vs his assistants? 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, hepcat said:

Begs the question - how much of the defense scheme is Rivera's vs his assistants? 

Wilks has been tied to Rivera for pretty much his entire career. They learned under a lot of the same people.

[Woodie]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Valid, though Rivera getting a two year extension may make a difference.

Yeah, but if I'm a hot DC with options, I don't think I want to take the risk of a new owner coming in and bringing in his own guys after just one season. 

I guess if I felt that there is enough talent here that I can still make my mark, it might be ok.  But for a coordinator that doesn't know the players and installing a completely new scheme, the likelihood is that the first year will be a transition year and not show what it can be.  The second year is where you would likely expect to see the payoff.  But if he's not given that second year, then it could hurt his future opportunities.  Just look at Shanahan in Atlanta.  After the first year, the offense looked like hot garbage, but in year two, things came together and that offense hummed.

Regardless, I don't see an outsider as being the next DC.  It will almost certainly be either Eric Washington or Al Holcomb.

[LinvilleGorge]

22 minutes ago, Woodie said:

Yeah, but if I'm a hot DC with options, I don't think I want to take the risk of a new owner coming in and bringing in his own guys after just one season. 

I guess if I felt that there is enough talent here that I can still make my mark, it might be ok.  But for a coordinator that doesn't know the players and installing a completely new scheme, the likelihood is that the first year will be a transition year and not show what it can be.  The second year is where you would likely expect to see the payoff.  But if he's not given that second year, then it could hurt his future opportunities.  Just look at Shanahan in Atlanta.  After the first year, the offense looked like hot garbage, but in year two, things came together and that offense hummed.

Regardless, I don't see an outsider as being the next DC.  It will almost certainly be either Eric Washington or Al Holcomb.

If I’m a hot coordinator candidate I’m begging for a shot with the Panthers. Three coordinators under Rivera have gone into be NFL head coaches plus former QB coach Mike McCoy. Rivera is essentially averaging a new head coach coming off of his staff every other year.

[Mr. Scot]

Another old Panther DC might be looking for work too (Vic Fangio) but he's already got suitors.