Hue Jackson, Todd Haley

[Mr. Scot]

 

If I'm HBO right now, I'm begging the NFL to put the Browns on Hard Knocks.

[Snake]

Wow lots of creative minds with egos to boot. 

[top dawg]

This has got to be Hue's last stand. He must have some kinda belief in Haley.  It's not like either are necessarily poo coaches---maybe head coaches---so maybe this time really will be the charm.  With all the picks and talent,  there is no excuse for not showing marked improvement (whether that be four,  five,  six wins,  or even more).  

[Anybodyhome]

Couple questions for you guys who live & breath this stuff....

I hear a lot of talking heads praising Hue Jackson, but is he hampered by a completely inept front office and if so...

...why did Todd Haley take the OC job there? And why isn't Haley getting any looks for an HC job?

[SetfreexX]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

This has got to be Hue's last stand. He must have some kinda belief in Haley.  It's not like either are necessarily poo coaches---maybe head coaches---so maybe this time really will be the charm.  With all the picks and talent,  there is no excuse for not showing marked improvement (whether that be four,  five,  six wins,  or even more).  

It's plenty of reason not to show improvement...

1) Still no QB

2) Who's the defense gonna stop

If marked improvement is winning a 4 games or less then ok. 

[t96]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

This has got to be Hue's last stand. He must have some kinda belief in Haley.  It's not like either are necessarily poo coaches---maybe head coaches---so maybe this time really will be the charm.  With all the picks and talent,  there is no excuse for not showing marked improvement (whether that be four,  five,  six wins,  or even more).  

 May seem ridiculous but for them I think the standards should be playoffs. Whether it's 10, 9, 8 wins that gets them in, anything less than playoffs and I'd fire Jackson.

[top dawg]

23 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

It's plenty of reason not to show improvement...

1) Still no QB

2) Who's the defense gonna stop

If marked improvement is winning a 4 games or less then ok. 

It's not like they don't have any highly touted defensive players. I know that they have at least two in the last couple of years.  If Hue can't get a QB this year,  then what's to make anyone think that he'll ever be able to get one? It's not like he hasn't had opportunities.  I realize that technically he wasn't the GM,  but he is the one that is supposed to know QBs.  They have great defensive prospects and offensive prospects,  and that's before the draft.  They need to make it happen, and show better in all aspects of team building and/or maximizing the players that they have.  

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Anybodyhome said:

Couple questions for you guys who live & breath this stuff....

I hear a lot of talking heads praising Hue Jackson, but is he hampered by a completely inept front office and if so...

...why did Todd Haley take the OC job there? And why isn't Haley getting any looks for an HC job?

Because Haley is reputed to be an absolute a--hole to work with. He's good at his job but people who have to be around him can't stand him.

To be honest, that's Jackson too. Hue also has a rep for being willing to stab colleagues in the back to get ahead.

Between the two of them, these guys have enough ego to fill up a small country.

Put it all together and you've got a working relationship that's probably going to be... interesting.

Interesting in the way that a massive train wreck is interesting.

[top dawg]

12 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

 May seem ridiculous but for them I think the standards should be playoffs. Whether it's 10, 9, 8 wins that gets them in, anything less than playoffs and I'd fire Jackson.

That's a big leap.  We'll see what they do in the off-season.  

[mbarbour21]

40 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

 May seem ridiculous but for them I think the standards should be playoffs. Whether it's 10, 9, 8 wins that gets them in, anything less than playoffs and I'd fire Jackson.

Especially if the AFC is as weak as this year 

[Mr. Scot]

51 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

 May seem ridiculous but for them I think the standards should be playoffs. Whether it's 10, 9, 8 wins that gets them in, anything less than playoffs and I'd fire Jackson.

Winning one game would be a good start.

[ZoneRead]

I agree HBO should put the browns on Hard Knocks I would actually watch it.

[Mr. Scot]

I'm guessing the Browns are hoping that having guys known to be a--holes as head coach and OC will produce some sort of a--hole synergy that will make them effective together.

Of course, if they just turn their a--holiness on each other instead, well...

[Peppers90 NC]

Very interesting