30 For 30... Two Bills

[dave-o]

Has anyone watched this yet?  Very interesting to watch....

[LinvilleGorge]

No. The Panthers are depressing enough as is. I sure don't want to watch a 30 for 30 on a team who's claim to fame is losing 4 consecutive Super Bowls.

[hepcat]

Do you mean the one about parcells and Belichick or the Buffalo Bills?

[dave-o]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No. The Panthers are depressing enough as is. I sure don't want to watch a 30 for 30 on a team who's claim to fame is losing 4 consecutive Super Bowls.

Its about Belichek and Parcells...  Two Bills...

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, dave-o said:

Its about Belichek and Parcells...  Two Bills...

Ah... gotcha

[Ricky Spanish]

I did, it was really well done. 

If you enjoy football as a sport, it's a great look into the relationship of two of the best coaches the NFL has ever seen. Shows how Parcells always respected Belicheck's mind for the game and how they worked well together even if they butted heads. 

[dave-o]

I also liked how back in the 80's they rode the players and each others asses...  Didnt coddle them like they do today...

[TheCasillas]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No. The Panthers are depressing enough as is. I sure don't want to watch a 30 for 30 on a team who's claim to fame is losing 4 consecutive Super Bowls.

haha why would you think it was the buffalo bills? I mean what would be the two different bills?

[dave-o]

52 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

haha why would you think it was the buffalo bills? I mean what would be the two different bills?

I know people think its cool to put down people on the internet but the original title was "30 For 30.. The Bills"...  I still hope you think you are cool tho...

[TheCasillas]

25 minutes ago, dave-o said:

I know people think its cool to put down people on the internet but the original title was "30 For 30.. The Bills"...  I still hope you think you are cool tho...

what? I wasn't putting you down man, I was legitimately asking. I saw the title was "The two Bills" and was just curious what struck a comparison of two different bills team.

 

Sorry it came off condescending 

[mc52beast]

I don’t understand why Parcells is considered a great coach... unless I’m forgetting something he only won one SB, didn’t do much after that. 

[Randolph Panther]

I dont think I ever realized that the Patriots were considering Dom Capers for their head coach.  I had forgotten how all that transpired when Parcells retired from the Jets. Imagine if Bellichick would have stayed with the NYJ? 

[SCO96]

On 2/12/2018 at 4:26 PM, mc52beast said:

I don’t understand why Parcells is considered a great coach... unless I’m forgetting something he only won one SB, didn’t do much after that. 

You have forgotten quite a bit sir.

Every team Parcell ever coached was in bad shape when he got there. By the 2nd or 3rd season they were in the playoffs. The first 3 teams (Giants, Patriots, and Jets) he coached all made to the conference title game at least once. He won two Superbowl titles (1986 and 1990) with Giants. He made it to the 1998 AFC title game with Vinny Testerverde as his starter for the Jets. His 1996 Patriot team almost beat Favre's Packers in the Superbowl that year. People forget how close that game was until the 4th quarter.

He's probably the main reason Montana didnt reach 5 SB wins before Brady. The 49ers won 3 titles between 1984-1989.  During that span the Giants knocked them out of the playoffs twice in the divisional round. The 49ers won back to back titles in 1988-1989. When the 49ers we're going for a Three-peat in 1990 the Giants beat them the NFC conference title game in San Francisco despite only scoring 15 points on 5 FG's. As great as Montana and the 49ers were in the 80's, the Giants we're the one team they hated to play.  ASK ANYBODY who remembers that era. Montana couldn't even finish two of those playoff  games because the Giant D beat him up so bad. I think Parcells record against Montana in the playoffs during the Bill Walsh/George Seifert era was 3-1.

He even had the Cowboys trending upward. While he was there. Then Jerry Jones decided to bring in Terrell Owens against his wishes. After that overly dramatic season was done Parcells resigned and never coached again.

 One knock on him was he that he didnt stay in any place too long. He seemed to burnout a little sooner than other great coaches. But, every team he left was in better shape than when he arrived. 

[SCO96]

Oh, I forgot to mention that when Parcells 1990 Giant team knocked off the 49ers he didn't do it with his starting QB. Phil Simms missed the last part of that season. His backup, Jeff Hostetler, came off the bench and led them to upset wins in the playoffs against SF and then Buffalo in Superbowl. The Nick Foles/Eagles story isn't new. Parcells  and the Giants pulled off a similar feat 27 years ago.