Voth: Time to draft a mid-round QB

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Car123 said:

Stop spewing garbage on this forum.

You and WOW are the ones spewing garbage.  Neither of you have a clue.  Maybe you should do some research before you make assumptions.

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You and WOW are the ones spewing garbage.  Neither of you have a clue.  Maybe you should do some research before you make assumptions.

How about you stop being lazy and back up your post with a quote or link?

[juliosantos]

20 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I also like Mike White.

Kyle Lauletta looked pretty good in the senior bowl as well.

i like Kyle Lauletta 

[AU-panther]

20 hours ago, TheRed said:

Will there not be any potential options available in free agency that can reasonably fit those stipulations?

I'm just honestly viewing it as a bit of a slap in the face to use anything more than a 6th or 7th rounder on a backup QB when we asked our current QB last year to literally drag us to the playoffs carrying our run game while throwing to guys who wouldn't even make the roster on many other NFL teams. I'm not saying I don't want a capable backup to a degree, I'm just saying think how that would look if you were in Newton's shoes. Especially if we are indeed cutting Stewart like it has been rumored. These are just things to ponder.

If Cam is counting on a single mid round pick to help him be successful we have bigger problems.

Hopefully his receiving group has been improved before then.

I like the idea of filling the backup QB position on a rookie contract.  Cheap fixed cost for four years.  Best case you flip him for some a draft pick in the future.

And I'm not sure what cutting Stewart has to do with it.  That might be a sign they are looking to improve the RB position.

[TheRed]

8 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

If Cam is counting on a single mid round pick to help him be successful we have bigger problems.

Hopefully his receiving group has been improved before then.

I like the idea of filling the backup QB position on a rookie contract.  Cheap fixed cost for four years.  Best case you flip him for some a draft pick in the future.

And I'm not sure what cutting Stewart has to do with it.  That might be a sign they are looking to improve the RB position.

If we're gonna draft a QB, go in and just use an early pick on one for the future. Throwing darts at the wall drafting a QB just to say that you did is a waste of time unless you just strike gold on one late which is like winning the lottery anyway.

I never suggested a mid round pick is going to salvage the entire offense, but I'd rather add some depth to the offense or shore up the D in weak spots more than drafting a QB in a half ass way.

As for Stewart, it's a simple question of who replaces that production. So far no other RB, CMC included, has proven they are capable of helming the run game.

[top dawg]

@Jon Snow, there is literally nothing in here to suggest that Ron Rivera essentially made the call to pick Cam Newton over Hurney.  Absolutely nothing! 

@Smithers @Car123

The GM,  HC,  scouts,  coordinators and position coaches worked as a team,  as well they should have,  and Cam Newton was the answer,  as well as he should have been. 

[Jon Snow]

5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

@Jon Snow, there is literally nothing in here to suggest that Ron Rivera essentially made the call to pick Cam Newton over Hurney.  Absolutely nothing! 

@Smithers @Car123

The GM,  HC,  scouts,  coordinators and position coaches worked as a team,  as well they should have,  and Cam Newton was the answer,  as well as he should have been. 

Sure, you continue to believe Hurney was the reason they selected Cam.  Hurney is just a puppet to JR and Ron.  There's a reason Ron continues on through two different GM's and now back to the puppet.

[TheRed]

This revisionist history I'm seeing now about the Cam Newton pick like it was a no brainer is just bullshit.

He was compared for months to every draft bust imaginable.

Very few people at the time thought Carolina made the right pick. 60-70% of this board wanted nothing at all to do with him whatsoever. Cam wasn't even the consensus top QB on the board for many.

[Car123]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Sure, you continue to believe Hurney was the reason they selected Cam.  Hurney is just a puppet to JR and Ron.  There's a reason Ron continues on through two different GM's and now back to the puppet.

More garbage

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

This revisionist history I'm seeing now about the Cam Newton pick like it was a no brainer is just bullshit.

He was compared for months to every draft bust imaginable.

Very few people at the time thought Carolina made the right pick. 60-70% of this board wanted nothing at all to do with him whatsoever. Cam wasn't even the consensus top QB on the board for many.

Cam was supposed to be the next Jamarcus Russell.

[Car123]

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/572297-cam-newton-10-reasons-why-hes-another-jamarcus-russell

https://deadspin.com/5871633/cam-newton-blames-jamarcus-russell-and-vince-young-for-the-disrespect-he-gets

[Yaboychris28]

This team isn’t going anywhere If Cam goes down so might as well roll with a decent PS QB as our backup 

[Jon Snow]

Might as well take one in the first if you're going to build for the future.  But that would send this place into a tailspin and it would be hilarious.

 

[top dawg]

14 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Sure, you continue to believe Hurney was the reason they selected Cam.  Hurney is just a puppet to JR and Ron.  There's a reason Ron continues on through two different GM's and now back to the puppet.

The reason why Ron continues on is because he's a good coach, contrary to what some may think. Furthermore, Jerry Richardson told Dave Gettleman that Ron was staying when he first hired G-man.  Ron was a package deal. And certainly you don't think that's the guy who hired Ron in the first place is going to fire him upon his humble return.  Come on,  man.  The gig is up.