Texans Owner Defends Jerry Richardson

[rodeo]

oh god JR is not selling the team

[KendrickPanther]

33 minutes ago, Mage said:

How in the world is it not offensive?

There was a time when we didn't assume every word and statement had som hidden meaning. His point got lost in the fact everyone saw him comparing his employees to criminals in a prison. But that was not what he intended. Anyone could see that. No one would intentionally make that connection. It's easy to jump on people for things like that and ignore what the person really meant.

[Mage]

1 minute ago, party_animal said:

It's a common colloquialism/cliche.  Not everything someone says it's meant to hurt someone's feelings. 

Just because something is said without the intention of being offensive doesn't mean it isn't offensive.  

It was a dumb, offensive statement regarding the situation, whether he intended for it to be or not, which is why the players on the team were pissed off about it.  It doesn't mean he's a racist or anything.  But it was an offensive statement hence why he apologized for it.  I don't see how anyone can say it wasn't offensive.

[Mage]

Just now, KendrickPanther said:

There was a time when we didn't assume every word and statement had som hidden meaning. His point got lost in the fact everyone saw him comparing his employees to criminals in a prison. But that was not what he intended. Anyone could see that. No one would intentionally make that connection. It's easy to jump on people for things like that and ignore what the person really meant.

It has nothing to do with reading too much into it.  How can you not see how saying "we can't let the inmates run the prison" in reference to (mostly) African-American players kneeling might be/is offensive?

There is a reason he caught a lot of backlash for it.  There is a reason he apologized for it.  It was insensitive.  It was offensive.  It was a dumb thing to say.  Just because I don't say something with the intention of it being stupid doesn't mean it isn't stupid.  

[AceMan]

Houston is turning out to be a crappy city

[Snake]

1 hour ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

investigate mcnair next

Collusion if not that obstruction! 

[KendrickPanther]

21 minutes ago, Mage said:

It has nothing to do with reading too much into it.  How can you not see how saying "we can't let the inmates run the prison" in reference to (mostly) African-American players kneeling might be/is offensive?

There is a reason he caught a lot of backlash for it.  There is a reason he apologized for it.  It was insensitive.  It was offensive.  It was a dumb thing to say.  Just because I don't say something with the intention of it being stupid doesn't mean it isn't stupid.  

I can see it. That's why he chose his words poorly. But he wasn't trying to say that. This "got ya" mentality is a distraction to any real conversation. This is in the same vein as "what do you mean 'you people'?" And so many other examples of unnecessary outage.

[AggieLean]

29 minutes ago, KendrickPanther said:

There was a time when we didn't assume every word and statement had som hidden meaning. His point got lost in the fact everyone saw him comparing his employees to criminals in a prison. But that was not what he intended. Anyone could see that. No one would intentionally make that connection. It's easy to jump on people for things like that and ignore what the person really meant.

lol well the players of the Texans sure took it as disrespect. Are you saying their feelings are wrong?

[KendrickPanther]

21 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

lol well the players of the Texans sure took it as disrespect. Are you saying their feelings are wrong?

People feel what they feel. He apologized. To bring it up 6 months later as a negative and not a lesson learned is a bit much.

[Delhommey]

21 minutes ago, KendrickPanther said:

I can see it. That's why he chose his words poorly. But he wasn't trying to say that. This "got ya" mentality is a distraction to any real conversation. This is in the same vein as "what do you mean 'you people'?" And so many other examples of unnecessary outage.

Just say “uppity” and get it over with, dude. Stop dancing around.

[t96]

1 hour ago, Mage said:

Just because something is said without the intention of being offensive doesn't mean it isn't offensive.  

It was a dumb, offensive statement regarding the situation, whether he intended for it to be or not, which is why the players on the team were pissed off about it.  It doesn't mean he's a racist or anything.  But it was an offensive statement hence why he apologized for it.  I don't see how anyone can say it wasn't offensive.

He botched a common cliche but there wasn't anything offensive about it whatsoever, even if people who are paid millions to play a game got upset about it. The meaning behind what he said is that they, the owners, make the rules and decide what can and can't be done on the league's time, not the players. The players have some say and the owners can choose to listen or not, but the players don't run the show. The owners do. And he's absolutely right. That's the reality and there's nothing offensive about that. 

[t96]

46 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

lol well the players of the Texans sure took it as disrespect. Are you saying their feelings are wrong?

People can take things any way they want. I could be offended by tons of things that the players say. Does that mean they're wrong and should apologize and that they're stupid to say the things they say? Toughen up people, jesus.

[Mage]

3 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

He botched a common cliche but there wasn't anything offensive about it whatsoever, even if people who are paid millions to play a game got upset about it. The meaning behind what he said is that they, the owners, make the rules and decide what can and can't be done on the league's time, not the players. The players have some say and the owners can choose to listen or not, but the players don't run the show. The owners do. And he's absolutely right. That's the reality and there's nothing offensive about that. 

Yes, I'm well aware of what the cliche means.

However, in the context of how he said it, it could be construed as offensive.  For an obvious reason.  I don't see why that is so hard to get.  It was a dumb thing to say within the context of what was going on.  The argument you guys seem to be making is that something can't be offensive if it isn't intended that way, but that isn't true.  And clearly it offended a lot of people hence why he apologized.

Nobody is saying he's a racist.  At least I'm not.  Just that his use of a cliche and wording in that instance was offensive, intentional or not.  And even he said he used a poor choice of words.  

[Yaboychris28]

Who cares