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Official 2018 NFL Draft thread - Round 1


Jeremy Igo

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Just now, Shocker said:

Before Tampa picks they do want a pass rusher and CB.  Davenport?  Alexander?  Possible but probably James.

They need S, CB and DE

James seems the highest graded guy, but who knows

they could also use a RB

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5 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

meanwhile Cameron Jerell Newton has  led his team to the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 seasons, went to the Super Bowl only 3 years ago, had a history MVP campaign with only 2 losses in the entire season. And hes .. an afterthought? 

Cam is no where near the level of luck because of...yknow...melanin /s

 

In all honesty though, none of these and are cam, far to small and injury prone.  Cam is the most unique qb in the history of the NFL, it's hard to compare anyone to him since no one is like him.  He's like a mobile Steve mcnair or a more Mobile ben roethlisberger

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