Talent available before the next tier drop

[davos]

No particular order but check this out:

1-Harold Landry DE

2-Mike Gesicki TE (Senior bowl meetup)

3-Jessie Bates S (Private visit, Local visit)

4-Isaiah Oliver CB -- no meeting, may not think he's a fit here

5-Willy Hernandez OG

6-James Daniels OG/C (Private meeting)

7-Derrius Guice RB

8-Nick Chubb RB (Private visit/workout)

9-Ronnie Harrison S (Private visit)

10-Josh Jackson CB (Pro day)

11-Connor Williams T/G

12-Donte Jackson CB (Private visit, workout)

13-Justin Reid S (Private visit)

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Wow.  

Let's factor in WRs are likely to start moving like Miller, Sutton, Hamilton, St. Brown, etc. I think we'll be halfway through this next round and have a guy in target we can use our 5th to move up just a bit for.  We won't have to mortgage the 3rd but enough to assure a talent we want.  There's some damn good ones on that list that were continuously mocked in the first.

Also, as is EVERY year, safeties are set with low values and not ranked how the consensus were on the sites.  It's like that every year haha.  

Who's worth moving up for if available let's say at 44??

[panthers34]

Josh Jackson or Isaiah Oliver would be worth moving up for IMO. I'm not super high on Reid but wouldn't mind him if he fell to us 

[davos]

I will say, I think Duke Dawson, Ian Thomas, & Chad Thomas could be sleepers for us. 

People may think Chad Thomas is a reach but in a very thin 4-3 DE draft, might as well grab one of the 3 to 4 talents that have NFL starter caliber talent.  Especially if a lot of the guys mentioned in the OP are gone. 

[t96]

7 minutes ago, davos said:

I will say, I think Duke Dawson, Ian Thomas, & Chad Thomas could be sleepers for us. 

People may think Chad Thomas is a reach but in a very thin 4-3 DE draft, might as well grab one of the 3-4 that have NFL starter caliber talent.  Especially if a lot of the guys mentioned in the OP are gone. 

If Rasheem Green is there and Jackson or Oliver aren't then we should seriously look at him. Guy is a monster and can be our long term DE solution.

[TheSpecialJuan]

I hope Hurney is patient and does NOT trade up.

[davos]

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Checking out a trade chart, we could use next year's 4th and this years 7th to move up to around 45.  Just looking at ways to keep both of our 3rds.  

 

[LinvilleGorge]

I said before the draft that I thought there would be a run on WRs and DBs in the late 1st to early 2nd. I still think that's the case. I definitely would not be mad if we made a move up to nab a DB we really liked.

[davos]

Just now, TheSpecialJuan said:

I hope Hurney is patient and does NOT trade up.

The talent drop mid second is a big one.  IMO tier 1 was 1 to 12-14, Tier 2: Mid-10s to ~40-45, Tier 3: 40-45 to 70

It's worth it IMO

[davos]

2 minutes ago, t96 said:

If Rasheem Green is there and Jackson or Oliver aren't then we should seriously look at him. Guy is a monster and can be our long term DE solution.

He was on my mind when I mentioned 3-4.  We've basically got a rookie in Hall but the more line talent the better, either side of the ball

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 minute ago, davos said:

The talent drop mid second is a big one.  IMO tier 1 was 1 to 12-14, Tier 2: Mid-10s to ~40-45, Tier 3: 40-45 to 70

It's worth it IMO

interesting..... 

[cookinbrak]

Some of those names will be there when we pick in the 2nd. No need to go Hurney now.

[t96]

1 minute ago, davos said:

He was on my mind when I mentioned 3-4.  We've basically got a rookie in Hall but the more line talent the better, either side of the ball

He's a pure 4-3 edge guy from what I've seen of him. Played inside in college but he projects as a perfect fit for the edge in a 4-3. Most teams probably view him the same way.

[top dawg]

I say stay put and let the talent fall to you. 

I'm telling y'all right now: Don't let Anthony Miller be there with our next pick.

[davos]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

He's a pure 4-3 edge guy from what I've seen of him. Played inside in college but he projects as a perfect fit for the edge in a 4-3. Most teams probably view him the same way.

I'm saying he was on my mind when I mentioned 3 to 4 guys haha.  Totally game for Green.