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Carolina Panthers Select -Marquis Haynes - DE/LB - Ole Miss


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3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Some of you guys are acting like we used a high first rounder on him.

It's the fifth. Don't jump off the edge.

Well we drafted an unathletic safety tweener already, TE with 35 career catches, and now a DE barely big enough to be a LB

some of us are very let down with our picks as a whole 

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2 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

I remember reading a lot of stuff about him that for him to properly work in a 4-3, he would need to add 15-20 pounds so he can keep the edge.  He's working to take the spot that CJ/Peppers was, this kid will be a replacement for Mario Addison.  Measurables fit for both, but weight in muscle is needed for both guys.  Just my opinion though.

he may need to add muscle but at 6'6" 265 he is right in the wheel house...

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These guys can develop, it just takes time. Some of the most productive pass rushers recently like Wake and Mathis started out tiny. Essentially redshirt him, get him on a weight program and ease him into the rotation. If he pans out awesome we found our next Addison. If not then fug it, that's to be expected with these crapshoots in the mid to late rounds. His get off is fantastic. Worth the risk

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Just now, TheRed said:

Some of you guys are acting like we used a high first rounder on him.

It's the fifth. Don't jump off the edge.

I'm not, just saying our handling of the picks signifies indecision and a lack of direction.  We clearly had a pass rusher as a need, otherwise we wouldn't have felt compelled to trade up for one.  So if it was a need, why not get a guy who is actually semi-built to do it instead of drafting corners who test out at the 2nd percentile to play safety?

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1 minute ago, Yaboychris28 said:

Well we drafted an unathletic safety tweener already, TE with 35 career catches, and now a DE barely big enough to be a LB

some of us are very let down with our picks as a whole 

for clarity define unathletic...

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1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

I'm not, just saying our handling of the picks signifies indecision and a lack of direction.  We clearly had a pass rusher as a need, otherwise we wouldn't have felt compelled to trade up for one.  So if it was a need, why not get a guy who is actually semi-built to do it instead of drafting corners who test out at the 2nd percentile to play safety?

Well... he's gotta be better than Kony Ealy.

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6 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

I remember reading a lot of stuff about him that for him to properly work in a 4-3, he would need to add 15-20 pounds so he can keep the edge.  He's working to take the spot that CJ/Peppers was, this kid will be a replacement for Mario Addison.  Measurables fit for both, but weight in muscle is needed for both guys.  Just my opinion though.

From his nfl.com scouting profile:

Slender, productive pass rush specialist who features an outstanding upfield burst, but an alarming lack of anchor. 

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An "alarming lack of anchor" gives me the impression that adding muscle isn't gonna help much.

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25 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

We just picked another Daeshon Hall, both are great pass rushers, but undersized.  FWIW, I'm ok with this pick, but how Hall looks this season will 100% tell us whether or not we have the training staff to get him bulked up properly without losing his speed.

Also, just saying, I'm very big on Daeshon Hall, I think he's gonna be a huge surprise to a lot of people this year with him having a full season to bulk up.

Hall is ideal size

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