The Richardson Rule

[ladypanther]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There is no defending him at this point. It's useless to even try.

Yep.  This is very disappointing.  A "family values" owner turned out to be quite the hypocrite.  The fact that he announced he was selling the team only hours after the initial story broke speaks volumes. 

[Moo Daeng]

9 minutes ago, bull123 said:

in this case the NDA meant nothIng as the lady that signed it and took the cash went straight to SI as soon as she could looking for more cash...then she went public again wanting to know why the NFL wasn’t doing anything a week before they fined JR

The teams are not public companies, they are privately owned...if they want to have NDA’s, its their business

Jordon is a good football writer...she and the rest of the Observer should stick to football

JR lost his team, his credibility, his stature, all he was....it’s over....time to move on

Public companies vs private is completely irrelevant.

[GRWatcher]

7 hours ago, bull123 said:

in this case the NDA meant nothIng as the lady that signed it and took the cash went straight to SI as soon as she could looking for more cash...then she went public again wanting to know why the NFL wasn’t doing anything a week before they fined JR

I believe you are presenting opinions as facts. There's nothing that says any of the ladies that were harassed went to SI looking for money. Nothing. Information came from an ex-employee. Also, Bob McNair told the press that, before the investigation started, Richardson spoke to him about the accusations and he apparently spoke to other owners too. NDA's are two-way streets. Once Richardson broke the agreement by talking to the owners, the other party was free to talk, even publicly. Which is how we learned about the written notes.

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Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson has offered an explanation to at least some NFL owners about the allegations of sexual and racial workplace misconduct against him, Houston Texans owner Bob McNair said on Sunday.

But according to McNair, Richardson has shared his side of the story with owners.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22911691/carolina-panthers-owner-jerry-richardson-regrets-settling-claims-houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-says

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Talking to the media before this week's owners meeting, McNair said he'd spoken with Richardson about the allegations that the Panthers owner had used a racial slur and asked to shave female employees' legs.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/26/bob-mcnair-houston-texans-richardson-anthem-themmqb-newsletter

So, fellas, it is no longer a she said/he said situation. Jerry Richardson is proven pond scum and, if anything, should be suing his lawyers.

[The Pieyed Piper]

14 hours ago, Saca312 said:

This is a prime example of why I don’t come back here on this site as often as I did last year.

Too many posters here spewing nothing but trash while contributing little to the site overall and acting proud of it.

Scot’s been one of the more diligent guys lately around here and contributing plenty of solid analysis and posts on the Panthers ownership and situation in general. 

But there’ll always be guys like you and others who find nothing better to do but bash any poster who’s trying to start some good discussion or post.

I mean, for everyone that seemingly hates my posts, at least you’ve basically won and led me to have little interest in making any posts like I’ve done in the past. 

 

it's my fault, I'm sorry.

 

[The Pieyed Piper]

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[pnthrs]

1 hour ago, GRWatcher said:

I believe you are presenting opinions as facts. There's nothing that says any of the ladies that were harassed went to SI looking for money. Nothing. Information came from an ex-employee. Also, Bob McNair told the press that, before the investigation started, Richardson spoke to him about the accusations and he apparently spoke to other owners too. NDA's are two-way streets. Once Richardson broke the agreement by talking to the owners, the other party was free to talk, even publicly. Which is how we learned about the written notes.

So, fellas, it is no longer a she said/he said situation. Jerry Richardson is proven pond scum and, if anything, should be suing his lawyers.

JR is pond scum you are correct but an area of this that doesn’t make sense to me is the McNair part. I know they talked but how do we KNOW that their talk did factually breach the NDA. I haven’t heard any proof that it was a breach. JR could have been very vague to the owners and said nothing to them that would break her specific NDA. It has seems to me that the lady who spoke to SI was looking for a reason to break hers and used that as the reason but to me that’s flimsy. 

[The Pieyed Piper]

can I be rebel scum?

[rico6]

23 hours ago, TheRed said:

So I guess the Panthers section is so conservative now that even Mr. Scot is treated like a bleeding heart liberal?

Bruh. It's fuging bizarro world in the Main Forum. 

[GRWatcher]

It all depends on the NDA agreement wording to begin with and we'll never see it. If it says (paraphrasing here), to never talk to anyone about the incidents, Richardson broke the NDA. If it simply says (again, paraphrasing), to only not talk about specific details then maybe he didn't. Why anyone would write an NDA without the first point is beyond me. That makes no sense whatsoever. And that makes her reason not flimsy at all but more like rock solid.

[Cam's New Arm]

I think it is possible to set aside the discussion of JR's scum percentage and that of the NDA disclosure. 

It's apparent she broke the clause.

It's also a possibility to have a discussion about NDA's and their place in the work public domain. The original reply to the OP was on point. 

Without NDA's the social society of popular individuals would be attacked and daly and collapse upon itself. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Dilly Dilly! said:

I think it is possible to set aside the discussion of JR's scum percentage and that of the NDA disclosure. 

It's apparent she broke the clause.

It's also a possibility to have a discussion about NDA's and their place in the work public domain. The original reply to the OP was on point. 

Without NDA's the social society of popular individuals would be attacked and daly and collapse upon itself. 

It's hard to imagine Richardson telling "his side of the story" without breaking the agreement.

And to be clear, Rodrigue isn't suggesting that NDAs be abolished, just disallowed within the NFL and it's CBA.

Is it a good idea?  There are certainly points in favor, but there are consequences too.

I'm undecided.

[Perry Rich]

On ‎6‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 11:48 PM, Mr. Scot said:

I realize you don't want there to be any acknowledgement of what Jerry Richardson did, but it's a little late for that.  The whole world knows now.

He wasn't falsely accused.  What he did was indeed a big deal.  And thankfully for all involved, he's going away.

Exactly what did Jerry do ? dont generalize, Tell me Exactly what Jerry did ? I've read some things he supposedly did. and although what I read wasn't very gentlemanly. but its nothing that 99 % of us hasn't done at some point in time. 

* asked someone to turn around so you could look at them

* studied someone's body ? (i guess that's looking at them a long time)

* brushed up against a boob while putting on their seatbelt … 

* asked to give them a foot massage ? 

* gave them money to go buy something ?

 

like i said, not the most gentlemanly thing to do,  and definitely not the most professional thing to do, but if this is all Jerry did, and nobody told him to stop and he didnt actually grab them or try to force himself on them... 

** If this is all it takes to be guilty of sexual harassment, then all the men on this board is guilty of it in one way or another and we need to pull our wallets out to pay someone...

So again I ask you … What exactly did Jerry Richardson do ??? 

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Perry Rich said:

Exactly what did Jerry do ? dont generalize, Tell me Exactly what Jerry did ? I've read some things he supposedly did. and although what I read wasn't very gentlemanly. but its nothing that 99 % of us hasn't done at some point in time. 

* asked someone to turn around so you could look at them

* studied someone's body ? (i guess that's looking at them a long time)

* brushed up against a boob while putting on their seatbelt … 

* asked to give them a foot massage ? 

* gave them money to go buy something ?

 

like i said, not the most gentlemanly thing to do,  and definitely not the most professional thing to do, but if this is all Jerry did, and nobody told him to stop and he didnt actually grab them or try to force himself on them... 

** If this is all it takes to be guilty of sexual harassment, then all the men on this board is guilty of it in one way or another and we need to pull our wallets out to pay someone...

So again I ask you … What exactly did Jerry Richardson do ??? 

Sports Illustrated

An FYI, this isn't a very good troll attempt.

[Perry Rich]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sports Illustrated

An FYI, this isn't a very good troll attempt.

FYI... its not a good troll attempt because it isn't a troll attempt