Its time to fire Rivera

[t96]

1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

You think running the ball on near every play (which Rivera said prior he wanted more of) and leaning on this pathetic defense makes sense?

Got our offense off rhythm and nearly cost the game. But yes makes sense that we shouldn’t consider firing him after Cam and Gano bailed his ass.

Cam started out great but wound up sucking today. Coaching was even worse, but it's one fuging game and we won. Rivera is a great coach and at potential replacement would have a huge likelihood of being significantly worse.

[Proudiddy]

40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd agree with that.

My one really big worry is that it does seem like our division rivals have pretty well figured Rivera's defenses out.

I've mentioned it numerous times before, but I'm convinced it's because of his prehistoric coaching approach that other teams have even stated publicly relies more on execution than out-strategizing.  IIRC, both the Seahawks during the LOB-prime and the Broncos after the Superbowl basically said that we do the same things...  there is no window dressing or exotic looks.  Teams pretty much know what we're doing (especially defensively) and we dare them to out-execute us.  And so, with division rivals, they've had twice a year, every season to gameplan on how best to attack it, and they have done just that...  and we make zero to minimal adjustments.

Knowing that, I'm still not sure how anyone thinks there isn't a better coach out there for us...  when all a coach does is set up a meta and places all responsibility on his players to execute to perfection, instead of gameplanning to make their jobs easier while outthinking his opponent, I can't think of a more outdated and lazier style of coaching that is any easier to replace.  

If anything, the most recent Superbowls have shown us (ours included), that you have to have aggressive coaching combined with an evolving, forward-thinking coach that actually views the game as chess, not checkers.

Ron isn't even playing checkers...  it's more like connect four.

[ras977]

2 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I've mentioned it numerous times before, but I'm convinced it's because of his prehistoric coaching approach that other teams have even stated publicly relies more on execution than out-strategizing.  IIRC, both the Seahawks during the LOB-prime and the Broncos after the Superbowl basically said that we do the same things...  there is no window dressing or exotic looks.  Teams pretty much know what we're doing (especially defensively) and we dare them to out-execute us.  And so, with division rivals, had twice a year, every season to gameplan on how best to attack it, and they have done just that...  and we make zero to minimal adjustments.

Knowing that, I'm still not sure how anyone thinks there isn't a better coach out there for us...  when all a coach does is set up a meta and places all responsibility on his players to execute to perfection, instead of gameplanning to make their jobs easier while outthinking his opponent, I can't think of a more outdated and lazier style of coaching that is any easier to replace.  

If anything, the most recent Superbowls have shown us (ours included), that you have to have aggressive coaching combined with an evolving, forward-thinking coach that actually views the game as chess, not checkers.

Ron isn't even playing checkers...  it's more like connect four.

3-1

[Semaj]

1 hour ago, hepcat said:

Running the ball with no timeouts with 15 seconds to go is RETARDED

Yep that was unbelievable.  I mean are they that freaking challenged????  Once again, we won in spite of our head coach.  Tired of winning like this.  In my humble opinion we will never win a super bowl with Rivera as the head coach.   I would love to be wrong.  Prove me wrong Riverboat.

[TheCasillas]

23 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

If I need to explain to you how Ian Thomas changing his route mid f’n break makes him responsible for the TO’s then this conversation is pointless 

I don’t think in my COMMENT DIRECTLY TO YOU mentions anything about turnovers. I actually specifically mentioned missed throws. However, since we want to discuss his turnovers, Cam missed a wide open Moore on his second interception, on a play that appears to be designed for the ball to go to Moore.... how does that happen?

first interception, sure that was a miscommunication between him and Thomas, I’ll give it that. However, i counted 7 drop backs today cam overlooked his 0-15 yard receivers for big plays that didn’t happen or turned into a run by him. He just didn’t see his options today. The cam

we saw todat, wasn’t the best cam. Bottom line.

[Semaj]

1 hour ago, Visual.Avenues said:

Lets blame Ron, and not Cam who threw 2 picks or the defense who played like garbage. Ok then.

It is not the same thing.  Both made mistakes.  Cam made his on the football field.  It happens all QBS throw interceptions.  Ron ran the ball with little time left and no time outs to barely pick up a first down.  That is an inexcusable mistake made by a veteran head coach.  Once again we only had one freakin time out for that last drive with about a minute and  a half left.  He's been here like 8 years and has not improved one ounce with time management and time out management.  It has cost us games and if not for an amazing kick by Graham we lose another one due to poor coaching and game management.  How can you put Cam and Ron in the same sentence together?  Sorry you don't like Cam, but he is our franchise QB and we will go as he goes.  I am thankful that we finally have a franchise qb.  The first and only in our teams history.   

[JARROD]

I gather everyone would rather us have the Number 1 offense in the league but be 1-3 instead of 3-1.

We can have the number 1 offense,.. Cam proved that.  The formula we had for 2015 we just havent stuck to.

We need a McDermott back,... Wilks was actually ok-- Washington SUCKS,...SUCKS,...

We have a Stewart clone but we choose not to have him contribute at all,.. no smash and dash here-- 

Wright is not Cotchery,..Torrey is not Ginn,...Funchess is a Funchess,... Moore and Samuel are the only hope we have there,..

Ian Thomas is not Greg Olsen,.. and Manhertz is no Ed Dickson as much as I hated Dickson,..

We had the formula for Cam,.. we had the defense that worked,..but alas,...

 

 

[Zaximus]

Rivera doesn't suck.    But he's not good.    He's in the middle of the pack of coaches, he's slightly better than Fox.     The guy gives up leads year after year, and his defense isn't even doing their job anymore.    He's a defensive headcoach with a bad defense.     And him and Norv are coaching like it's 1985 out here.     We're outcoached weekly by most coaches.     The league is a scoring league now, it's not a "sit back and be a wuss" type league.    We have a coach that likes field goals more than TDs.     He coaches like it too.     We have a coach that trots out Torrey "never open" Smith and "Honey Funchess of Drops" over young guys with energy in Moore and Samule.    When Moore gets the ball, things happen, feed him.     We choose to stop passing to CMC.    We never use CJ Anderson, ever.    We play 10-15 yards off receivers and let them rape us over and over week after week (year after year).     This zone crap sucks.     

I do envy the people with their heads in the sand though "This is fine!".     This is why this franchise is stuck right in mediocrity, right at .500 or around there, because you accept it.     Just like Richardson did.    Time to wake up and get over that.    Expect to WIN.

[Sasquatch]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

If it actually came to that, Dan Campbell from the Saints coaching staff.

I don't actually believe it's going to come to that.

You can't even contact him until after the season.

[JakeDel5674]

1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

You think running the ball on near every play (which Rivera said prior he wanted more of) and leaning on this pathetic defense makes sense?

Got our offense off rhythm and nearly cost the game. But yes makes sense that we shouldn’t consider firing him after Cam and Gano bailed his ass.

Man, I remember when you and many others were much more positive on here. It's about time you and many other mother fugers FINALLY saw the light nctarheel0619 used to see all the day time. That guy was smart. 

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

You can't even contact him until after the season.

I'm not in favor of midseason firings.

I don't even know if Rivera will be "fireable" after this season.

Just sayin' if we're looking, that's a hot name right now.

[Sasquatch]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not in favor of midseason firings.

I don't even know if Rivera will be "fireable" after this season.

Just sayin' if we're looking, that's a hot name right now.

Sorry, but you're encouraging the idiocy.

[Sevy87]

Nothing but a bunch of Divas most of you are. Stop crying! He fuged up! Got the win  with no injuries other then Smith which could be a blessing. Learn from it , get better. Geez! Want me to get y’all a little blankly. Buy a few boxes of Tampons for y’all. 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

2 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Why doesn’t any of this fall on Cam? He legitimately had a bad day.

Because it is a team effort sport.