Eric Washington: Something to think about

[Snake]

3 hours ago, ARSEN said:

Defense is terrible overall.  Even today we had zero pressure and redskins controlled the game clock all 4 quarters.  Offense only had 3 drives in 2nd half cause defense could not stop anyone.

Yeah and it didn't help we were trying to control the clock. 

[Bartin]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Would he need to?

If you're doing something that isn't working, but you just keep doing it and refused to adjust, word gets around on its own. I think that's the sad truth of our defense right now.

On offense, the Giants did a pretty good job of shutting down our run in the latter part of the game. Then come this week, the Redskins are controlling it from the get-go.

I don't think that's an accident.

I do believe teams have figured out that we can't beat them deep. The run game in a Coryell offense is heavily predicated on having a deep threat. Right now, we don't seem to have that element to our offense.

Could be Torrey Smith, could be Newton's shoulder, could be lack of playing time for Curtis Samuel, could be a combination of those things or all of those things and more.

Whatever it is, coaches need to figure it out and do whatever they can to fix it.

Shula would always at least try a deep shot once or twice per half even if it wasn’t working just to keep the defense honest and almost always to our fastest receiver whether that was Ginn, Byrd, Samuel or even Kaelin Clay. That was one thing I liked about him. Norv would try it once per game to Torrey and maybe once to Funchess in the first couple games but has now stopped doing it completely.

There is no reason we shouldn’t be having Moore or Samuel running a go route once per half and just airing it out to them. Torrey has clearly proved himself incapable of even getting a half yard of separation.

[Bartin]

2 minutes ago, Toolbox said:

Tepper tried to get rid of tomlin

You have a source on that? More curious than not believing it.

[Snake]

9 minutes ago, RJK said:

No pressure, confusion in the secondary, and DE’s dropping into coverage.....

No pressure was the biggest problem. Once we started hitting Smith he fell apart but it was to little to late. 

[Snake]

Just now, Bartin said:

You have a source on that? More curious than not believing it.

I can spare you the read. It said some of the Steelers minority owners wanted Tomlin gone. No actual name drops. 

[Toolbox]

2 minutes ago, Snake said:

I can spare you the read. It said some of the Steelers minority owners wanted Tomlin gone. No actual name drops. 

Yeah it was believed that tepper led the charge on that

[Snake]

Just now, Toolbox said:

Yeah it was believed that tepper led the charge on that

It was a logical request when you look at what damage he has done. 

[Toolbox]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

It was a logical request when you look at what damage he has done. 

yeah no doubt

[Mr. Scot]

36 minutes ago, RJK said:

No pressure, confusion in the secondary, and DE’s dropping into coverage.....

To be fair, defensive ends and even defensive tackles dropping into coverage isn't terribly unusual in a Zone Blitz scheme, and yeah it can work.

It is however, correct to say that it's not working for us right now. But then, nothing much else is either.

[Mr. Scot]

28 minutes ago, Bartin said:

You have a source on that? More curious than not believing it.

I've seen that confirmed in a couple of places.

It was a group of minority owners pushing for the Steelers to dump Tomlin. Tepper was named as a member of the group. There's no confirmation as to how involved he was or whether he was one of the main people behind it.

Based on my gut and what I've read, I don't think he was one of the main instigators. That's just my judgment though.

[LinvilleGorge]

If this D doesn't get a lot better and do it quickly, this season is probably going to spiral down the drain and I'm not sure Ron and company will survive that with a new owner in place who may be itching to put his own people in place to truly out his stamp on the organization.

I think Ron is a great guy and I think he's a better coach than most, but if I was him I wouldn't be feeling cocky about my job security.

[Raleigh PF]

Two issues with the Panthers and Washington.

1. Can we agree that the Panthers have heavily invested in the defense and have the talent to be a good, if not great, defense? If we agree to that, the job of the DC is to get the most out of that talent. Instead, we are getting the least.

2. The Panthers do not need a coach going through OJT. The Panthers should have stepped outside the box and hired a verifiable defensive coordinator. Someone with fresh ideas, not just to take the same scheme and reduce it. 

I don't dislike Washington as a coach, but shouldn't his OJT happen in college, NOT on a team looking to go deep in the playoffs?

[NorthTryon]

Since the preseason game against the Patriots, our defense plays better with Cox activated.  He can set the edge and has the mentality to go all out.  He played in the Dallas game and the Cincy game two games in which we played the run like old times.  Obada and Haynes need to make some strides before they are active this consistently.

[trucpfan]

34 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

Since the preseason game against the Patriots, our defense plays better with Cox activated.  He can set the edge and has the mentality to go all out.  He played in the Dallas game and the Cincy game two games in which we played the run like old times.  Obada and Haynes need to make some strides before they are active this consistently.

I agree completely one thing to add Obada gets more pressure on limited snaps then anyone else I see but he's on a Curtis Samuel type of rotation. Anyone else notice he's the only one getting pressure.