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I fully believed that the NFL has evolved to the point that we no longer have an opportunity to compete for a Super Bowl under Ron and his philosophies.

He's a great guy and he coached us to some great times, but I think it's time for us to move on. I won't celebrate it. I really wish that Ron was the guy.

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3 minutes ago, thecookouter said:

What do you expect Rivera to do? Their D line is light years better than ours.  

 

The deceptive coverages we run wont work if QBs have all day to throw.

I expect Ron to acknowledge that his protege DC is a failure and step in and takeover the defensive play calling himself and let Washington go back to focusing on coaching the DL and hopefully elevating their play.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I fully believed that the NFL has evolved to the point that we no longer have an opportunity to compete for a Super Bowl under Ron and his philosophies.

He's a great guy and he coached us to some great times, but I think it's time for us to move on. I won't celebrate it. I really wish that Ron was the guy.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I expect Ron to acknowledge that his protege DC is a failure and step in and takeover the defensive play calling himself and let Washington go back to focusing on coaching the DL and hopefully elevating their play.

You think Washington just created a whole new playbook out of nowhere? We just don’t have the D line.  KK is trash, Poe is trash and our edge guys are skeletons.  

 

What possible specific thing (in terms of playcalling) could Ron do that Washington isn’t?

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27 minutes ago, thecookouter said:

You think Washington just created a whole new playbook out of nowhere? We just don’t have the D line.  KK is trash, Poe is trash and our edge guys are skeletons.  

 

What possible specific thing (in terms of playcalling) could Ron do that Washington isn’t?

When everyone all of a sudden looks like trash under a new coordinator, is it more likely that everyone turned to trash over the course of a single off-season or is it more likely that the new coordinator is trash?

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