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If the Panthers can't finish against the Lions, do we really expect them to do so against the New Orleans Saints, Los Angeles Rams or Chicago Bears in the postseason?

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If the Panthers can't finish against the Lions, do we really expect them to do so against the New Orleans Saints, Los Angeles Rams or Chicago Bears in the postseason? We do not.

My reaction to this is, horse crap.  I assume then that GB and NE have no play off hopes either.    I think we all feel that we are not playing to the level of talent that we have...like we're still shaking off the steelers game stench.  The odds of reaching the playoffs now are like 2-1 against.  

Nothing like a second bucs game to get us firing on all cylinders again.  That was the last game that it looked like we had all the pieces for a playoff run.  Hopefully Jackson will play, the DC will call a variety of blitzes, the DL will get angry, gano will lose his yips and Norv will come up with a more reliable solution to our goal-line/red zone woes.

I don't want easy decisions for Tepper, which losing-out will do.  Tepper is where he is because he is willing and quite capable of making good hard decisions.  Lets just win.  Let Tepper then do what is necessary in the offseason.

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I don’t think the rest of the league and the pessimistic side of this fan base realize that we’re not that bad. We lost 4 games off of stupid mistakes

 

The talent is there. Ima get poo’d to oblivion for saying this but we can hang with anybody. Gano lost us three games this year. If Gano wasn’t so shitty we would be sitting 9-2 and circle jerking each other for the first back to back winning seasons 

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Why are we still talking about the playoffs? This team may/may not be able to beat the Bucs and Browns much less do anything in the playoffs if we’re lucky enough to back in.

As for Tepper, I believe if the team finishes at .500 or better Ron stays for at least another year. If they finish below .500 then it’s a 50/50 chance Ron is fired. Remember Dave comes from Pittsburgh where they’ve had 3 coaches in their entire existence 

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Well it’s happened before to the Giants, Steelers, Green Bay even that they barely squeaked in after dismal seasons, fans wrote them off— Fire the coach, they suck all the same stuff,..

but they went on to win Superbowls,..

Phily was written off completely last year going into the playoffs—hell everyone here was hoping we lost or won one more game so we were paired with them instead of the Saints.

its up to the team— 5-6 plays every game have been the difference—so it’s up to the team to take back those 5-6 plays while they still can get to the playoffs or just fall. Apart the rest of the way,

its like the bottom of the 9th rally,.. rally,.. rally hats,.. all that. 

heroes or sheep— decide Panthers

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2 hours ago, joeyxfresco said:

I don’t think the rest of the league and the pessimistic side of this fan base realize that we’re not that bad. We lost 4 games off of stupid mistakes

 

The talent is there. Ima get poo’d to oblivion for saying this but we can hang with anybody. Gano lost us three games this year. If Gano wasn’t so shitty we would be sitting 9-2 and circle jerking each other for the first back to back winning seasons 

I agree with everything except the circle  jerk part.

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we either winning out or losing out. Most likely the latter. This team is starting to lose trust in each other and i guarantee almost half of that locker room has been lost by Ron. Torrey Smith somehow played last game with again no stats. Just space eating. I don't think Cam likes him. 

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5 minutes ago, HornetsSting said:

Why are people making posts as though we even have a legit shot at the playoffs? Let’s see, we no longer control our own destiny, we would need Seattle and the Vikes to drop some games in ADDITION to us practically winning out.

 Oh and we still have the Saints twice. Guess who Seattle has? Vikings, Cardinals, 49ers and 49ers and some other crap team I can’t think of right off the bat

Kansas City?

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