Spiking the ball on first down with 1:04 on the clock

[bobsfoodbasics]

1 hour ago, Peppers90 NC said:

I thought wasting another 25 seconds after they picked up the first down to run it down to the 2 minute warning was another example.

Exactly!

Kamara gets the first down with 2:22 left on the clock. The panthers should have called their second time out then. Call there third and final time out after the 2nd down run and then the 2 minute warning stops the clock after the saints third down play.

Ron got lucky that Bradberry knocks the ball out of Lewis' hand and it goes out of the endzone, but all of the timeouts should have been used before the 2 minute warning in that situation.

[parker]

We had a better hurry up offense on the first drive of the game.

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

We needed the time so that we could celebrate the first down later.  Duh.

That’s is the immature CAM ppl on huddle have issue with.

[billionairemonk]

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

What exactly is it with this fanbase and the weird urge to criticize players for celebrating?

Like you demand your team be successful but in your remarks you're almost more concerned with players having the nerve to actually show emotion on the field than with the fact they lost yet again. What is that?

I'm one of the biggest Cam supporters here, but you are being disingenuous if you didn't think that was a stupid decision. complete lack of situational awareness.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

As in players resemble their coaches?

Yes.

Is there another team with less of a sense of urgency when it comes to attempting to score points during the last 2 minutes?

This has been going on for eight years so it isn't an aberration. 

 

[Peppers90 NC]

We all expect Ron to fug up the clock management, so I guess that gives Cam a pass too. Way to lower expectations for Cam now as well.

[thefuzz]

9 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Yes.

Is there another team with less of a sense of urgency when it comes to attempting to score points during the last 2 minutes?

This has been going on for eight years so it isn't an aberration. 

 

I swear....at this point.

It's almost like Ron says...."why on Earth do we need to be good at a two minute offense?  If the players execute, we shouldn't need to rush, we will be up by at least 3 points."
 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Just now, Peppers90 NC said:

We all expect Ron to fug up the clock management, so I guess that gives Cam a pass too. Way to lower expectations for Cam now as well.

I don't think anyone on the team deserves a pass, coaches or players, but ultimately correcting the situation is on Ron and his staff.

Ron has had eight years and based on last nights game, it is still unresolved.

[Mr. Scot]

14 minutes ago, parker said:

We had a better hurry up offense on the first drive of the game.

Our offense is always better early in the game.

Time and fatigue wear us down pretty bad.

[Icege]

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

 

Criticize him for losing then. I've offered no excuses for Cam turning the ball over. I didn't make excuses for him after the Cleveland game either. He personally owns up to his failures every single time. He never attempts to shy away from accountability.

But this hand wringing over celebrating is just suuuuuper petty, and dumb at best. At worst it's racism, and I'm just going to call it like I see it. This is a sport for entertainment. These guys are paid millions to play a game. If watching a black athlete having the nerve to show emotion at a sporting event meant for enjoyment stirs up something inside you, you have issues you need to directly address with yourself. I'm sorry but that's the plain truth. Don't like it? Correct it. Or go watch golf or cricket or some poo.

I think that at times, you might be so (rightfully) irritated by the bigotry of others when discussing Cam that you can't help but consider that a constant underlying concern even when it might not be. In some cases, yes, there are irritable ol' codgers that just can't process anything other than their own prejudices that just won't like anything Cam does because of who he is.

At the same time, it is not fair to put that assumption on folks that are criticizing a decision that he made when he clearly fuged up. We can't sit there and try to throw Rivera under the bus for it because not only is Cam responsible for his actions but Rivera has been hit, backed up over, and then ran back over by the bus. He needed to be more concerned with calling the time out than doing what he did for whatever reason he did it for. Couple this with the bad throw on the following play that could have been the difference between 7-7 and 6-8 and that is going to shove that particular poor decision into the spotlight (especially considering that he is getting paid millions like you said)

[billionairemonk]

2 hours ago, TheRed said:

I'm not going to mince words here. Let's just take the gloves off. I've been following the Panthers since I was a teenager. Never in all those years with Delhomme or whoever was behind center do I ever recall so much as a whimper about players celebrating, win or lose. If you want to ignore what is right in front of your face that is your choice, but not everyone else has to do that. Especially considering we are in the year 2018.

you're trying to make this into something it isn't and it's obvious.  if anyone wastes time celebrating a first down inside the 2 minute warning, they are going to be criticized, plain and simple.

[Skack25]

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

We needed the time so that we could celebrate the first down later.  Duh.

That occurred before the spike, but yea sure.  Dumb.

[Peppers90 NC]

2 minutes ago, Skack25 said:

That occurred before the spike, but yea sure.  Dumb.

he was sarcastically referring to the infamous before the end of the first half blunder(s)

[Peppers90 NC]

37 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

I don't think anyone on the team deserves a pass, coaches or players, but ultimately correcting the situation is on Ron and his staff.

Ron has had eight years and based on last nights game, it is still unresolved.

No one is getting a pass except straight to the offseason, which they deserve. There are a lot of things Ron does right and is good at, but what he does wrong is so bad it often costs us games. Then my speculation that the team has grown tone def to his message only means it is time to move on. Clock management is one of those things that has killed this team in those 8 years.