"won't be there" realistically

[vorbis]

count me in as firmly against any "Panthers should have lost week 17" reasoning. whether you pick 8th, 16th, or 32nd, it's who you pick that matters. having a higher pick does not in itself guarantee the player you pick will be better.

look at past drafts. there are plenty of #8 picks that didn't work out. there are plenty of #16 picks that turned out poorly. there are plenty of #32 picks that never made a mark in the league.

at the same time, there are plenty of players picked in the teens that far outpaced the #8 pick in that same draft. and I imagine there are numerous examples of a #32 pick exceeding the accomplishments of the #8 and #16 picks in their same draft. just focus on picking the right player at the spot you have, and put them in a position to succeed and develop. that's literally all you need to worry about this time of year. 

the only time I would advocate for doing anything other than trying to win every damn game on your schedule is if there are 2-3 weeks left and you have a legitimate shot at the #1 pick and an obviously transcendent player. and usually teams in that position know well ahead of time that they suck and will need that specific player.

[ChibCU]

3 minutes ago, vorbis said:

count me in as firmly against any "Panthers should have lost week 17" reasoning. whether you pick 8th, 16th, or 32nd, it's who you pick that matters. having a higher pick does not in itself guarantee the player you pick will be better.

look at past drafts. there are plenty of #8 picks that didn't work out. there are plenty of #16 picks that turned out poorly. there are plenty of #32 picks that never made a mark in the league.

at the same time, there are plenty of players picked in the teens that far outpaced the #8 pick in that same draft. and I imagine there are numerous examples of a #32 pick exceeding the accomplishments of the #8 and #16 picks in their same draft. just focus on picking the right player at the spot you have, and put them in a position to succeed and develop. that's literally all you need to worry about this time of year. 

the only time I would advocate for doing anything other than trying to win every damn game on your schedule is if there are 2-3 weeks left and you have a legitimate shot at the #1 pick and an obviously transcendent player. and usually teams in that position know well ahead of time that they suck and will need that specific player.

Of course... but does a higher draft position not increase odds of landing successful players? Please don't argue that fact.

It's why teams spend actual draft picks to trade up.

[SmittysLawnGuy]

I believe either Sweat or Ferrell (not both)will be there at 16 which would be perfect for us. Gladly would take either.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Depending on who’s available I’d either trade back or trade our pick for a de.

[heyzeus]

It felt like NO played to lose because they knew the draft implications and we didn't, yet again the evil genius getting over on Rivera by tanking a meaningless game.  Did Payton stratagizate to take the L while resting starters for the playoffs? 100% yes.

Rams!

[Sub Zero]

So many Pass Rushers in this draft no way will they all be gone.. 

Jaylon Fuergeson is moving up.. Jahile polite is also there .. 3/4 teams will love Burns as well.. Ppl need to relax.. Hell if all the 1st round  pass rushers go you might get a top OT..

[Camp Fodder]

I still think it’s stupid a team that beat us twice and had the same record picks before us

[Snake]

6 hours ago, RumHam said:

we have the worst top spot. I'd be willing to trade back for more picks honestly.

It's really the only option.

[Snake]

1 minute ago, Prime said:

Falcons or bucs gonna scoop greedy and ed Oliver and get pro bowlers. We're going to have to take BPA instead of taking a need just to make sure we don't mess up. Deionte Thompson will be a panther. 

Yup and this could have all been avoided.

[luke nukem]

8 hours ago, KeepPounding96 said:

Kyle Allen has worked his whole life for an opportunity and he finally got his one chance to go out and prove himself. Same goes for other unproven Panthers (CAP, Gaulden, Haynes). Do you really expect them to lose on purpose?

no but its shitty that Peyton ran a vanilla O and D on us because he knew he had nothing to gain from winning, why not make your division rival worse next year. He got exactly what he wanted. If they had gone out against a team who was actually competing and won It would be a different story.

[luke nukem]

Plus its a nice shitty cop out to say the streak vs NO is over. It is now a Drew Brees streak and he has won 4 in a row on us.

[Sub Zero]

4 minutes ago, luke nukem said:

Plus its a nice shitty cop out to say the streak vs NO is over. It is now a Drew Brees streak and he has won 4 in a row on us.

How long does the bitch session last??

Is this March, April, june thing or are you guys going to head into training camp.. Still bitching about winning a game??

[Sub Zero]

Its getting ridiculous the same bunch of lame ass losers will mess up a good football conversations talking about poo that happened a month ago..

Instead of fuging up new threads.. Go bump the old ones about that "subject" and keep bitching in that one..

Just some common courtesy.. 

[Verge]

I think a guy like Zach Allen makes sense. None of the three you listed should be there.