Rivera on First Take (Today)

[Sasquatch]

20 hours ago, panthers55 said:

And let's ignore that the medical staff and trainers make the decisions about when injured players are ready to play. 

And ultimately, the player can say no. There is nothing in the player contract mandating that they take the field even if the coach says to.

[Darvinsun]

We go blind and say no matter what I am a panthers fan or you can be a fan that wants better. When you know sh$t stinks you can't continually deny that it doesn't and believe that just bc you ignore the facts that it will change cause it will not. The only way it doesn't smell bad is if you dont do it or be around it. Spray all the air freshener you want it just makes it smell worse. Eventually air freshener wears off and you still have sh$t. 

[Boundary Guru]

On 2/15/2019 at 12:21 PM, Waldo said:

Well, even Cam admitted he couldn't throw further than 30 yards but the MRI says he was fine. That is a pathetic level of dysfunction and lack of accountability.

 

Correct me if I am wrong, Cam did not (publicly) say that he could not throw the 30 years until after the season. 

[Waldo]

34 minutes ago, Boundary Guru said:

Correct me if I am wrong, Cam did not (publicly) say that he could not throw the 30 years until after the season. 

Yep but we were holding him out of practice 'as the new normal' so it's not like the team didnt know cam had a problem. Plus the whole play call selection kinda backs the idea the team was aware of it. Even opponents said they knew. It isnt rocket science.

[raz]

panthers55, cam was 80%?    not even close. maybe 40%  rivera is an idiot.    he can't help it.  he was born stupid and then took a pounding on his head.   when he really needed to take a look at himself and his coaching, he chose his wife to do that with, not, you know, a better coach.

[pantherclaw]

On 2/15/2019 at 4:04 PM, Cookie Lyon said:

Where in my post did I admit to actively rooting for the team to fail? Rivera's decision to bench Cam blew up in his face as soon as DA threw a pick on the first play. 

Y ea ah, that was Rivera fault. 

Stop

The

Ignorance 

[pantherclaw]

Only on the huddle, is it the HC's fault that the franchise QB plays after he's been cleared to play. 

Y'all need to stop with the excuses already. 

Stop 

The

Ignorance 

[ChibCU]

On 2/15/2019 at 12:02 PM, EgoDogg said:

.... After everybody is always getting corrected here whenever they say "Curtis Samuels," Ron Rivera goes ahead and says it, himself. Haha.

Doesn't even know the names of his players

[Darvinsun]

On 2/17/2019 at 9:26 AM, pantherclaw said:

Only on the huddle, is it the HC's fault that the franchise QB plays after he's been cleared to play. 

Y'all need to stop with the excuses already. 

Stop 

The

Ignorance 

Why would an coach play a QB that can not throw 30yds downfield with a suspect line and deteriorating armor as long as he did? Does he have common sense? It worked for the 1st half of the season and quickly diminished after Steelers game. He could have handle it better. This is just laughable.

[MasterAwesome]

On 2/15/2019 at 9:44 PM, Cookie Lyon said:

You're clearly delusional. Get a life.

Sure; will you try to learn football in the meantime?

[top dawg]

Amusing thread. 

Rivera isn't perfect, but he isn't clueless.

My take until proven otherwise: He's a good coach still learning how to be great. Will he get there? I don't know. 

On an off note, I believe Cam is a good QB, still learning to be great. Will he ever get there? I don't know.

Luke? Luke is just great.

[panthers55]

On 2/17/2019 at 6:54 AM, raz said:

panthers55, cam was 80%?    not even close. maybe 40%  rivera is an idiot.    he can't help it.  he was born stupid and then took a pounding on his head.   when he really needed to take a look at himself and his coaching, he chose his wife to do that with, not, you know, a better coach.

Cam started out the game fairly well. As the game progressed he struggled more. Look at Cleveland for example, he marched us down the field the first series and was largely effective in the first half. But in the 4th quarter he struggled like missing a wide open receiver in the end zone for the lead. Normally that would have been an easy pitch and catch for Cam.

Buy for the rest of your discussion you apparently can ramble on with no reality basis so there is that....

[panthers55]

On 2/18/2019 at 3:29 PM, Darvinsun said:

Why would an coach play a QB that can not throw 30yds downfield with a suspect line and deteriorating armor as long as he did? Does he have common sense? It worked for the 1st half of the season and quickly diminished after Steelers game. He could have handle it better. This is just laughable.

Part of it is that 90% of throws by any quarterback rarely go 30 yards so in a game maybe a QB actually chucks it deep downfield 2 or 3 times a game. So that is not a reason not to play. Secondly Cam started games fairly strong and diminished the more he threw it. He was the best guy we had at that point and honestly do you pay someone 20 million bucks to ride the pines if MRIs say no damage and playing won't make it worse?  Will we have a better plan moving forward in case Cam can't stay healthy? I hope so. But given how he is Superman at times he is likely always going to be given every chance to succeed.