Garrett Bradbury should be our 1st round pick

[Matt62881]

48 minutes ago, Toomers said:

That’s why I suggested Preston Smith. Should be in the 10-11/yr range. His first year would actually be less than 9.2M for Shaq. And we get to keep him if he’s good. Unlike Shaq. And we would still need to draft one even if we signed one. There is a ton of FS available, which is why locking up Reid was ignorant. Much cheaper than DEs. With all our needs, he’s a luxury we can’t afford. 

They did pay reed good SS money but I think hes better then he looked in Washington's scheme. I'll stick with the coaches\GM knowing more then us or I would be skeptical too.

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, Toomers said:

That’s why I suggested Preston Smith. Should be in the 10-11/yr range. His first year would actually be less than 9.2M for Shaq. And we get to keep him if he’s good. Unlike Shaq. And we would still need to draft one even if we signed one. There is a ton of FS available, which is why locking up Reid was ignorant. Much cheaper than DEs. With all our needs, he’s a luxury we can’t afford. 

You're going to surprised when you see what Preston Smith gets. I got him going for 18+, easy.

 

Bradberry would need to be a multiple all-world C to pick at 16 for it to be worth. The guy from Mississippi maybe better and others are close too. Hard pass for me. 

[Dex]

I have a major crush on Bradberry but I don't think the value is there at 16. A week ago I would have said he was a late second/early third round pick. Stupid 40 yard dash.

[tiger7_88]

8 hours ago, Toomers said:

They don’t and that’s why. No just OL. 

Does the NFL count 3-4 rush OLBs as DEs?

In other words, do they consider all "edge" rushers the same?

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

Does the NFL count 3-4 rush OLBs as DEs?

In other words, do they consider all "edge" rushers the same?

No. I think Clowney is raising hell about it now. He’s listed at LB. 

[Toomers]

14 minutes ago, Basbear said:

You're going to surprised when you see what Preston Smith gets. I got him going for 18+, easy.

 

Bradberry would need to be a multiple all-world C to pick at 16 for it to be worth. The guy from Mississippi maybe better and others are close too. Hard pass for me. 

Whoa! 18+? I would think the Redskins would have tagged him if he had that kind of value. I can’t see that. 

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Whoa! 18+? I would think the Redskins would have tagged him if he had that kind of value. I can’t see that. 

They have waaay too many issues currently to tag him. Close to 16 teams have 50+ million in cap space, he is at a premium spot and getting overpaid is a given. He does fit that gray area about tag and trade value, no team wants to trade juicy draft picks and sign the huge deal unless you're Kmack. I stand by it. 

[Sub Zero]

16 hours ago, thefuzz said:

What do you think would be the bust rate for the number 1 center vs. the number 4 DE?

Take the highest graded player always unless it's a position that you are loaded up on....and we aren't loaded up on many positions currently.

I still would go with the most impactful position especially after looking at the depth chart..

And let's not forget we're talking about the 4th rated pass rusher in the best Dline draft in years... So the guy is still probably a really good player at a more impactful position. 

[Khyber53]

19 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

So why are centers paid less than tackles by 15 mil on avg. and guards by 10 to 8 mil on avg??

AGAIN!! Centers are important but it isn't a position that is usually valued as a 1st round need almost never a top 20 pick need.  And for a team with other major needs.. Its completely a bad value move... Ryan was great but he couldn't do poo to keep Von Miller and Demarcuse Ware from trashing Cam in the superbowl.. Everybody here would have traded Ryan for Larsen if we could have had competent Tackle play for that game.. Plain and simple it's better value to get the 4th rated OT than the 1st rated center if it comes down to it.  Picking a Center at 16 means we have taken care of our Tackle, pass rush , and secondary issues in FA.. Not likely to happen.. We will be just fine with a 2nd round or 3rd round center..

You seem to equate cost with value. There's your problem, right there.

[DeeJay]

10/10 would 10 again

[Basbear]

20 hours ago, Toomers said:

Whoa! 18+? I would think the Redskins would have tagged him if he had that kind of value. I can’t see that. 

I'm going to back off a little, 16+. I had him similar to Oliver Vernon who got 17mill per 2 years ago..... that may be an outliner than the same case deal regardless of the 25 million in cap expanse and a huge number of teams with space. 

[Sub Zero]

On 3/5/2019 at 6:38 AM, Khyber53 said:

You seem to equate cost with value. There's your problem, right there.

I think as a smart GM you should always equate cost with value.. I thought (before the Kali deal) Gman was great at that..

[KaseKlosed]

On 3/1/2019 at 8:42 PM, Khyber53 said:

We need to go ahead and grab Garrett Bradbury, C, NC State with our first pick. He's being touted as everything from an automatic starter at C to a 10-year All Pro at the position. We need a replacement for Kalil the Greater right now and Bradbury would be just the guy to do it. Read Bucky Brook's take on the guy who is moving up a lot of draft boards.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001020161/article/nfl-combine-winnerslosers-justice-hill-puts-on-a-brief-show

I agree. We  need day 1 starters not projects in first round.  We can grab a legit safety in 2nd and we have picks to move up in order to get another starter as well. 

[Khyber53]

3 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

I think as a smart GM you should always equate cost with value.. I thought (before the Kali deal) Gman was great at that..

And then we learned. Basically, any Free Agent that was a starter on another team comes at a premium and their agents negotiate as if the highest salary is pretty much the going rate. The vast majority of free agents out there, in any given season, aren't worth the money they will be paid. If they were, they wouldn't be out on the street in most cases.

Centers are rare in free agency, making them even more of a price gouging opportunity. And centers left to roam the market are generally hurt and it is a position that can suffer greatly from injury (remember Ryan Kalil's recent performances?).

Grab the best center in the draft, get him at the first round draft pick guaranteed salary with the automatic extra season option. It's the best bet for the money and the best guarantee of getting a position of need locked down for the coming years.