Official general NFL Draft Day 3 open thread

[KillerKat]

Just now, JARROD said:

I think the hybrid thing has left the building. Full 3-4 base

RR and everyone on the staff has said hybrid. Hybrid D's lack in some areas. We may just live with a lack of 3-4 DL. Have 3 guys starting there and only 2 backups.

[ecu88]

23 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Something that stands out to me when doing a chart for both 4-3 and 3-4 is Cox and Obada look to be strictly 4-3 DEs. I don't think we'll cut them because we need the depth for 4-3 ends, however we need to find a way to stash more 3-4 DEs on the roster. I don't think Jared Norris makes it too after doing this.

Obada is pho'king 6'6" and weighs 265. Also he runs a 4.6, has long arms, big wingspan, and has great bend. His 10yd split is 1.53 which pho'king elite for a 43 end or as a 34 olb.

Efe is an excellent role player and depth.

[tiger7_88]

10 minutes ago, Lloyd Christmas said:

Addressed their top three needs? How could he think that the secondary (specifically safety) is not a top need? I seriously do not understand the mindset of our management sometimes. Its almost as if everyone else can see the deficiency's but they can't.

If you have paid any attention at all over the last 8 seasons, you would have noticed a very significant thing:  Ron Rivera places very little value in the safety position.

[Double Trouble]

Caleb WIlson left UCLA as a junior and might go undrafted oof.  965yds last year and ran a 4.56 40.

[KillerKat]

2 minutes ago, ecu88 said:

Obada is pho'king 6'6" and weighs 265. Also he runs a 4.6, has long arms, big wingspan, and has great bend. His 10yd split is 1.53 which pho'king elite for a 43 end or as a 34 olb.

Efe is an excellent role player and depth.

Tell me where he's getting play time in a 3-4 in front of these guys:

LOLB: Bruce Irvin - Christian Miller - Mario Addison
LILB: Luke Kuechly - Andre Smith 
RILB: Shaq Thompson - Antwione Williams
ROLB: Brian Burns - Jermaine Carter Jr. - Marquis Haynes


I'm not sure what you're arguing. I said we shouldn't cut him because we need depth in 4-3.

[Fox007]

4 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

If you have paid any attention at all over the last 8 seasons, you would have noticed a very significant thing:  Ron Rivera places very little value in the safety position.

It goes back even further to before he was at Carolina.

[ecu88]

1 minute ago, KillerKat said:

Tell me where he's getting play time in a 3-4 in front of these guys:

LOLB: Bruce Irvin - Christian Miller - Mario Addison
LILB: Luke Kuechly - Andre Smith 
RILB: Shaq Thompson - Antwione Williams
ROLB: Brian Burns - Jermaine Carter Jr. - Marquis Haynes


I'm not sure what you're arguing. I said we shouldn't cut him because we need depth in 4-3.

Misread, my bad.

If we are going 34, he still can be OLB. 

We just do not have many 5 tech pieces and it is hard to see if we are going 34/hybrid/etc etc

[hsfolk]

Saints get another safety

[MHS831]

31 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

You'll get run over playing 3-4 DE at 270 lbs.

With the 3-4 you need a HUGE 0-Tech and a couple of 300 lb'ers to play on the ends.

I was suggesting that he add 15 lbs or more--but I do  not see his frame handling it.   My question is--how many DEs/OLBs we can keep?  We have Irvin, Addison, Haynes, Obada, Burns, and Miller.  That is six.  If we keep Cox for use in the 4-3 only, that makes seven.  Not sure about the math--will take a look.  Maybe that is why we have not taken and DBs--we are not going to use any.

[ncfan]

4 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Tell me where he's getting play time in a 3-4 in front of these guys:

LOLB: Bruce Irvin - Christian Miller - Mario Addison
LILB: Luke Kuechly - Andre Smith 
RILB: Shaq Thompson - Antwione Williams
ROLB: Brian Burns - Jermaine Carter Jr. - Marquis Haynes


I'm not sure what you're arguing. I said we shouldn't cut him because we need depth in 4-3.

Not sure where everyone is plugging Carter so quick at OLB in a 3-4

Kid was a true 4-3 LB in college, no where near a edge rusher.  Would see Shaq playing before Carter

[ecu88]

3 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Tell me where he's getting play time in a 3-4 in front of these guys:

LOLB: Bruce Irvin - Christian Miller - Mario Addison
LILB: Luke Kuechly - Andre Smith 
RILB: Shaq Thompson - Antwione Williams
ROLB: Brian Burns - Jermaine Carter Jr. - Marquis Haynes


I'm not sure what you're arguing. I said we shouldn't cut him because we need depth in 4-3.

Jermaine Carter Jr is too small to be an OLB in a 34.

Antwoine Williams will not make the 53.

 

[KillerKat]

Just now, ecu88 said:

Misread, my bad.

If we are going 34, he still can be OLB. 

We just do not have many 5 tech pieces and it is hard to see if we are going 34/hybrid/etc etc

Well another thing to consider is he's only recently started football and has found his success at DE in the NFL. I think that's where we are going to keep him focused.

[Lloyd Christmas]

7 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

If you have paid any attention at all over the last 8 seasons, you would have noticed a very significant thing:  Ron Rivera places very little value in the safety position.

I have paid attention and you are correct.....and it pisses me off, especially considering that safety is the weak link of our defense.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Am I missing something or don’t the saints already have 3 safeties ? And they just drafted 2 more