Paradis Film Review

[LinvilleGorge]

He was a great center for the Broncos. He was our Ryan Kalil. But, it sure seems like the hip injuries have ruined him. The only player I've seen play OL at the NFL level with his degree of relative apparent physical weakness was Amini. The dude just gets physically manhandled on most plays.

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Yet your keystone argument is "maybe he is injured, I don't know".

Not really selling yourself as someone knowledgeable about what is going on.

Feel free to read the article and show how the person in question is wrong.

   Do you know exactly how much Paradis is “injured”?. It’s been the assumption that he’s still hurt and that’s why he sux. Unless you have his medical report, no one knows. 
 

   Your answer is some guy who has never put on a helmet is saying it’s the coaches fault that he went from a top 10 center to the worst in the league. 

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

This year Paradis was Center 17 on the pay chart.  Will be Center 12 on the pay chart next year.  Can be cut the next.

We can cut him after this season. We'd save $1.6M if we cut him straight up or we could designate him a post June 1 cut and spread his hit over two years.

If I was the GM, I'd probably cut bait and designate Paradis and Shirt as post -June 1st cuts and just move on.

[WarPanthers89]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We can cut him after this season. We'd save $1.6M if we cut him straight up or we could designate him a post June 1 cut and spread his hit over two years.

If I was the GM, I'd probably cut bait and designate Paradis and Shirt as post -June 1st cuts and just move on.

We would literally have no team if we took everyone’s advice on cuts. We already have seven thousand free agents after this season, and if we stop using Paradis to block the left defensive end multiple times a game, he may be rated where he is being paid next year. He hasn’t had a great year but he is not nearly as bad as the Huddle makes him out to be. He is being ask to help out many different areas of the line that most centers never have to do 

[Toomers]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We can cut him after this season. We'd save $1.6M if we cut him straight up or we could designate him a post June 1 cut and spread his hit over two years.

If I was the GM, I'd probably cut bait and designate Paradis and Shirt as post -June 1st cuts and just move on.

       I hate the thought of eating 17M for a guy who can still play at a high level. Especially when the only other DT signed has to be cut. You could trade. Nice draft pick would make17M easier to swallow. 

[Matt62881]

49 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

I am not sure I would go that far, and it has nothing to do with Paradis.  If we continue to use him in the wrong situations, then he was a bad signing.  Paradis was signed as a pass blocker who had known weaknesses that haven't changed.  Apparently we go out of our way to put Paradis in a situation to let his weaknesses shine while never adapting.

Not adapting to a pass rush.  That sounds familiar.

Well when our tackles stop getting hurt and play better they can do right by paradis. Wlliams to a 1 yr deal was an excellent gamble, unfortunately his injury was apparently gruesome enough to damage his nfl carrer. He no longer posses the things that made him special in his agility or athleticism in general to be a starting tackle.

[Matt62881]

Most tackles take at minimum a full nfl year to develop into even average starters, so maybe by next year with the help of FA, the draft, and experience our oline will be a pleasent suprise. Big thing is we need to stop all this line movement, consistency is important. I am worried about Taylor moton because he came straight in and played good and now is getting beat, is this due to inconsistency on the line or a injury or is he just having a down year. Little is playing about like i expected if not exceeding them as the way i feel about rookie LTs and Dennis Daley has exceeded all expectations since i had none..a LT that late, didnt assume hed even make the team!

[Matt62881]

40 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   Do you know exactly how much Paradis is “injured”?. It’s been the assumption that he’s still hurt and that’s why he sux. Unless you have his medical report, no one knows. 
 

   Your answer is some guy who has never put on a helmet is saying it’s the coaches fault that he went from a top 10 center to the worst in the league. 

Ehh i think hes fine and the ops link made very good points with film to back it up, not even really the coaches fault but more a very young tackle group. Tbh most pressure I have seen has come off the edges so don't even know why hes ranked so low. CMC also seems to have plenty of sucess running through the A gap.

[ellis]

I’ve seen enough evidence of John Matsko turning garbage into serviceable parts to give him a little benefit of the doubt. 

[Toomers]

17 minutes ago, Matt62881 said:

Ehh i think hes fine and the ops link made very good points with film to back it up, not even really the coaches fault but more a very young tackle group. Tbh most pressure I have seen has come off the edges so don't even know why hes ranked so low. CMC also seems to have plenty of sucess running through the A gap.

    I’ll take your word for it. He also thought we should have kept Matt Kalil. 
 

    I can pick a couple plays and make any player A star or a failure. It’s player that maintain a level of consistent play that survive. Well I could if I knew anything about how to do something like that on anything. Pretty much computer idiotic. 

[Matt62881]

17 minutes ago, ellis said:

I’ve seen enough evidence of John Matsko turning garbage into serviceable parts to give him a little benefit of the doubt. 

Me as well, i see Daley-draft pick-paradis-turner-Little or little and Daley switched whoever wins, with 3rd or later round draft a project C with very high upside for matsko for after paradis. Hurney knows this line needs help he just couldn't fix it in one year.

[stratocatter]

49 minutes ago, ellis said:

I’ve seen enough evidence of John Matsko turning garbage into serviceable parts to give him a little benefit of the doubt. 

This is the thing. They gave Wilkes crap for years because he could do something with it.

[Jared Patterson]

Van Roten is terrible. No idea why people in the Panthers organization think he is good. He is an okay back up and would never see the field on any other team in the NFL.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We can cut him after this season. We'd save $1.6M if we cut him straight up or we could designate him a post June 1 cut and spread his hit over two years.

If I was the GM, I'd probably cut bait and designate Paradis and Shirt as post -June 1st cuts and just move on.

Per https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/matt-paradis-14618/

Paradis is a 7.2m dead cap hit next year.  5.4m 2021.

Paradis doesn't need to be moved on from.  The coaching does.  Or our tackles do.

I am not a fan of creating that much dead cap space for a player that has a history of playing well but is being put in a horrible situation this year.