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Rhule might equal Rhebuild

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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8 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

No it doesnt. Sheesh. Rhule is the key to a complete rebuild. from top to bottom. If the team wasnt moving on from Cam where is his extension?

Top to bottom really? We're an oline away from being a wildcard team and a dline from being a contender 

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Just now, BurnHurnBurn said:

Tepper used the word "might".  He's hedging his bets.  Setting the bar low.

What kind of funds did he manage again?

I have noticed that about Tepper since he got here....there are ALWAYS qualifiers in his statements.

I do this in my job every single day, it's just protection.

Wonder if people have put together his statements on "college coaches take a while to adjust to the NFL" and "it may take 5 years to build a consistent winner" yet?

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Just now, BurnHurnBurn said:

Tepper used the word "might".  He's hedging his bets.  Setting the bar low.

What kind of funds did he manage again?

The term hedge fund is used broadly in the financial industry and hedging wasn't a huge part of what Appaloosa does/did. A better descriptor would be "bet on distressed companies and government entities by buying their bonds (debt instruments) at a steep discount when most expect them to fail, then reaping huge gains if they turn things around."

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1 minute ago, Jus Rob said:

Top to bottom really? We're an oline away from being a wildcard team and a dline from being a contender 

So.....two of the most expensive, and hardest to find position groups to fill in the NFL?

We have zero standout players on our O or D line that are under 30, or signed long term.

We are a mess.

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Just now, thefuzz said:

So.....two of the most expensive, and hardest to find position groups to fill in the NFL?

We have zero standout players on our O or D line that are under 30, or signed long term.

We are a mess.

I wouldn't say that.  We have young talent that due to injuries haven't been playing the same position I don't think our oline is that terrible I would like a solid FA tackle or guard signed this offseason 

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Pretty much the entire staff coaching staff is gone. Expected, but okay.

Our trainer is gone.

Our chief salary cap specialist / contract negotiator is gone.

It's expected that a lot, and maybe all, of our scouting department is gone.

And our GM still might be gone.

This team is set to look unrecognizable next year.

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5 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

The term hedge fund is used broadly in the financial industry and hedging wasn't a huge part of what Appaloosa does/did. A better descriptor would be "bet on distressed companies and government entities by buying their bonds (debt instruments) at a steep discount when most expect them to fail, then reaping huge gains if they turn things around."

His literal title was hedge fund manager.  My analogy is spot on.

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6 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I have noticed that about Tepper since he got here....there are ALWAYS qualifiers in his statements.

I do this in my job every single day, it's just protection.

Wonder if people have put together his statements on "college coaches take a while to adjust to the NFL" and "it may take 5 years to build a consistent winner" yet?

Right now, I'm reeeeeally hoping Kevin Colbert is coming aboard at some point.

Rhule knows how to set up a college program, but not an NFL one. He'll need help in that department. Colbert would be ideal.

Two other possibilities from his time in New York: Marc Ross, and...Jerry Reese.

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That's awesome news!! Rhule was the one guy I did not want because of that "rebuild" fact. Sounds like we will be waisting CMC's time and talent even more for the next few years. Stupid. Might as well trade him, Cam, and Kuechly and commit to a full rebuild. No point in half assing it. I feel like if they are REALLY going for a rebuild which all signs indicate they are I feel like they will trade Cam 100% even if its just for a 3rd or 4th rounder commit to some scrub at Qb for the year so we can suck ass and get a top 3 pick next year. Doesn't make sense to half-ass commit to a rebuild.

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A college coach coming in their first year and turning a franchise around isn't unheard of... It's just rare. Here's hoping that we get some of that rare luck next season. Our defense needs an overhaul and our offense needs some improvement, mainly on the line and another true WR. Maybe what we have and later get can be coached up. I can't wait to find out. 

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3 minutes ago, Jus Rob said:

I wouldn't say that.  We have young talent that due to injuries haven't been playing the same position I don't think our oline is that terrible I would like a solid FA tackle or guard signed this offseason 

I would.

There isn't a single piece, on either line, that I can look at and think that is a good building block.  If you can, please name them.

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