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Matt Rhule is not into analytics, and his offensive philosophy is archaic and inefficient

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There seems to be a perception Rhule is an analytics guy, but this couldn't be further from the truth.  He's actually pretty similar to Rivera, in that he's conservative, obsessed with running the ball, and playing for 'field position'.

Anyone who watched their Bowl game last week will remember he punted on 4th and 1 at midfield when he was down by 2 touchdowns.  There's a lot more to analytics than 4th down decisions, but these kind of conservative decisions demonstrate a lack of awareness.  And in fact, he punts on 4th down quite a bit (and even when you hear him discuss his decison making, it's always best on some gut feeling he had, rather than numbers).

He could still be a successful coach.   Perhaps he'a adaptable and will embrace analytics if someone teaches him.  But he's going to need coordinators who are lot brighter and more innovative than he is, as his main selling point seems to be his leadership abilities and not anything tactical.  

There has to be something Tepper heard from Rhule that we're not aware of, but as of now, it's a mystery.

 

 

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Isn't this why he wants a Sports Science department funded? To embrace the analytics? For the record, that has been his history at Temple and Baylor. Get a lead and then run the ball to death to kill clock and lean on the defense. Its why year in and year out his defenses were highly ranked and his offenses were often bottom half of the NCAA. 

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Just now, Tbe said:

Six of the top seven running teams made the playoffs this year.

That is in terms of yards. If you look at his running backs in college, 6 of the 7 years he didn't have a 1k yard rusher. In 4 of those seasons his leading rushing attempt guy was a QB. A QB who might not play football again due to concussions from running and getting hammered. In like 4 of those seasons the top rusher on his team didn't even make it to 700 yards. 

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You morons are hunting for something that is not actually what Tepper said. Tepper said he wants OLD SCHOOL FOOTBALL DISCIPLINE. Those of you confused why we hired Rhule, who doesn't appear to be the next Wiz Kid coach, because you think Tepper has been preaching nothing but "Analytics" need to work on your comprehension skills.

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Guy definitely has old school tendencies but it’s pretty clear he’s willing to work with whatever he’s got to win. While he may “hate” the RPO he built a staff at Baylor adept at running it and built the program off it.

Also, Baylor has been pretty ahead of the curve in a lot of analytics based concepts spear headed by Rhule.

As an example


Yeah it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out but Tepper was pretty clear what he wanted: a coach that liked old school discipline but embraced new school thinking. This feels like the definition of that hire. Half of analytics is the willingness to use it and it’s pretty clear he has that. Can’t say he’s gonna be good but I’d definitely say this Posts Title is a bit of an exaggeration.

 

I do agree he reminds me of the version of Rivera Tepper wanted him to be.

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