Albert Breer: Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio could be hired after his contract runs out

[Jon Snow]

25 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

This whole discussion assumes Marty isn't doing his job and is likely to be fired post draft. I have read little to suggest that any of that is true. In fact Hurney has done a very good job since he came back and that is a general consensus outside of a dozen vocal posters on the huddle. I think Tepper does know what he is doing and apparently the advice he must be getting from his football people must be Hurney is doing a good job as well.  Then again I am sure that those complaining know more about football and money than Tepper.    

There are no facts to support this supposition.  None.  

It never was true and never will be.

[thefuzz]

46 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

This whole discussion assumes Marty isn't doing his job and is likely to be fired post draft. I have read little to suggest that any of that is true. In fact Hurney has done a very good job since he came back and that is a general consensus outside of a dozen vocal posters on the huddle. I think Tepper does know what he is doing and apparently the advice he must be getting from his football people must be Hurney is doing a good job as well.  Then again I am sure that those complaining know more about football and money than Tepper.    

Please explain in detail with facts, not opinion.

[DFive]

Looks like Texans gave their HC the official title of GM....

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, DFive said:

Looks like Texans gave their HC the official title of GM....

I can't see any way that this could possibly go wrong.

[raz]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can't see any way that this could possibly go wrong.

i want the ass on his chin to start giving its own interviews

[Soul Rebel]

Would we run into the same issue with Caserio as we did with Berry? Is Hurndizzle cockblocking a much better talent entering our FO?

[Mr. Scot]

 

[Mr. Scot]

39 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Would we run into the same issue with Caserio as we did with Berry? Is Hurndizzle cockblocking a much better talent entering our FO?

Caserio's contract ends after the draft. At that point, permission doesn't matter because he's a free agent.

It's also been reported that if he's not staying, the Patriots would prefer he leave sooner rather than later as they don't want him to be part of or have knowledge of their offseason plans (yeah, Belichick is ruthless).

Now with that said, to anyone who thinks Caserio would interview for anything less than the full GM job, I'd say "not likely".

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, Soul Rebel said:

Not to rehash this topic, but outside of his first round successes, what has he done that leads you to this thought? 

If you created a "pros/cons" list and named off items, is your "pro" column truly that much greater than your "cons" column at this high of a level of a billion-dollar organization that is supposedly against mediocrity, to keep him as the right-hand man to your #1?

I think he has done a good job in the draft and free agency. Given the number of injuries we had the past 2 years it has been a revolving door for many units on the team. You have to separate the talent he has accumulated from the results the coaching produced which aren't synonomous. Would any disagree that the talent on this team has underperformed or do you think we don't have any talent?

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

There are no facts to support this supposition.  None.  

It never was true and never will be.

Sounds totally objective on your part . LOL

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Please explain in detail with facts, not opinion.

It wouldn't matter what facts I would bring up, you wouldn't agree or change your mind. So why would I bother going through the effort. A lot like the impeachment trial, everyone believes what they want and arrange facts to fit their agenda. I have plenty of reasons to back up my opinion and you do for yours. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, panthers55 said:

Sounds totally objective on your part . LOL

I don't have to be.  His teams records speak for themselves.  But if you are cool with a 1 in 4 chance of fielding a winning team then more power to ya brother.

[panthers55]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I don't have to be.  His teams records speak for themselves.  But if you are cool with a 1 in 4 chance of fielding a winning team then more power to ya brother.

While the buck stops with the GM and owner, the fact they are still here and Rivera isn't suggests where they think the blame lies. 

Don't know why supporting Hurney supports a 1-4 chance of fielding a winning team. He doesn't play or coach simply gets the coach and scouts the players they request and fits it under the cap.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

While the buck stops with the GM and owner, the fact they are still here and Rivera isn't suggests where they think the blame lies. 

Don't know why supporting Hurney supports a 1-4 chance of fielding a winning team. He doesn't play or coach simply gets the coach and scouts the players they request and fits it under the cap.

Yeah, why blame the captain of the ship?   Tepper owns the boat but your boy is steering the ship.   So far he's managed to run it aground more times than Skipper and Gilligan.