DT vs. OT

[Daeavorn]

5 hours ago, The Huddler said:

I want to give Little a chance to develop in what will most likely be a rebuilding year. 

 

giving up on Little, especially considering the circumstances, is premature. 

Why not draft Thomas and let Little compete with him. If he loses then at least we know we have a good backup OT. 

 

I don't think we are so strong at OT that we can pass up a bonafide starter at LT, if he is graded as such.

[PantherPhann89]

We need to protect there QB first...

[Growl]

7 hours ago, The Huddler said:

We need to give Little more of a shot than a concussion riddled rookie season with a lame duck head coach. 

 

go draft at a position that is devoid of talent and young potential aka DT

 

Hurney isn't drafting a LT a season after trading up for "our future left tackle". Bitch and say what you want, Id bet good money we will not be drafting LT

there's also the matter of where we are at contractually between the two position groups, and which player is the consensus better player.

That so many have talked themselves into taking a player that will add 0 wins to our overall win total next season has to do with two factors

1) Traditional huddle panic over taking the "Safest Player Available"

2) An erroneous belief that Cam is still the axis around which the team is constructing a roster and that we've "gotta build around him"

[Raleigh PF]

You left off option #3, which is to trade down. The Panthers need more picks and drafting ONE player such as Brown or Thomas is not going to offer a lot of help. Couple that with the fact that the Panthers aren't swimming in cap space and the obvious choice is to trade down.

Oakland should be the target with their two #1 picks. They would likely trade up to #7 if they could get Jeudy.

With the #12 and #19 picks, BOTH positions could be satisfied, but I would be happiest with Kinlaw and Delpit. 

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, Raleigh PF said:

You left off option #3, which is to trade down. The Panthers need more picks and drafting ONE player such as Brown or Thomas is not going to offer a lot of help. Couple that with the fact that the Panthers aren't swimming in cap space and the obvious choice is to trade down.

Oakland should be the target with their two #1 picks. They would likely trade up to #7 if they could get Jeudy.

With the #12 and #19 picks, BOTH positions could be satisfied, but I would be happiest with Kinlaw and Delpit. 

Two issues with this. One is that a trade back looks great if there is no or not much talent drop off between the picks involved in the trade. Two is we have a GM that is good in the first with a less than desirable ability the rest of the draft. Considering we are picking at 7 where there is a lot of talent, we should just make the pick and hope the rest of the draft is better than the last 2 years outside of the 1st round. 

[kungfoodude]

I'd love having both options. We desperately need a LT and just any help on the OL at all but getting a game changing DT would be a huge boost, as well. That is a tough call.

I'd probably take Brown but I'd be happy with either of them.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

using your analogy I'd say what we have at present are eggs in the fridge that there is a very strong probability have gone bad, and if you use them in the cake, maybe you just screwed the whole cake.

Remember last season when we put ourselves in a position to depend on people who were coming back from injuries at important positions? Like say, center?

Oh yeah, let's do that again. Sure worked out well the last time, right?

[Raleigh PF]

4 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Two issues with this. One is that a trade back looks great if there is no or not much talent drop off between the picks involved in the trade. Two is we have a GM that is good in the first with a less than desirable ability the rest of the draft. Considering we are picking at 7 where there is a lot of talent, we should just make the pick and hope the rest of the draft is better than the last 2 years outside of the 1st round. 

The proposed trade includes adding a second 1st round pick. More opportunity for Marty to get TWO picks right.

I'd rather have two really good players at key positions than one All-Pro.

[cmichd]

6 minutes ago, Raleigh PF said:

You left off option #3, which is to trade down. The Panthers need more picks and drafting ONE player such as Brown or Thomas is not going to offer a lot of help. Couple that with the fact that the Panthers aren't swimming in cap space and the obvious choice is to trade down.

Oakland should be the target with their two #1 picks. They would likely trade up to #7 if they could get Jeudy.

With the #12 and #19 picks, BOTH positions could be satisfied, but I would be happiest with Kinlaw and Delpit. 

I don't have a problem if they trade down to get the 12th or 19th picks.  The more the better.  Maybe we can pick up their 2nd for next year if they are really willing to trade up.  I heard they Las Vegas wants a QB.....not a WR, but who knows.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

2 hours ago, The Huddler said:

ok, then might as well bank on an improving Little than drafting another OT with potential. 

 

OTs frequently bust, and even the best OTs usually deal with a steep learning curve and a period if struggle before getting better. 

 

the odds of drafting an instant impact player at OT are slim.  id bet money a 2nd year Greg Little would perform better than a rookie OT. 

 

its not the instant fix you all think it is. its just not. 

Agree.

[thefuzz]

There is a silver lining to this guys.

Marty has drafted exactly 1 player who worked out long term for the Panthers at DT or OT.

So we got that going for us.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

using your analogy I'd say what we have at present are eggs in the fridge that there is a very strong probability have gone bad, and if you use them in the cake, maybe you just screwed the whole cake.

You know it actually takes a long time for eggs to go bad in a fridge.....

[Waldo]

Just now, Raleigh PF said:

The proposed trade includes adding a second 1st round pick. More opportunity for Marty to get TWO picks right.

I'd rather have two really good players at key positions than one All-Pro.

Last year we almost took Little in the 1st...Just take an All-Pro and pray the rest of the draft. Your betting on a guy who makes bad trades or gets bad value as the end result of decent trades. The Olsen trade was the anomaly not the standard. If we had different circumstances, I would be more likely to agree with you but here we are again.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

Greg Little >>>> Rookie T @ 7

We want solid line play but even drafting a T at 7 does not guarantee that. Yeah, there is a better chance Little outplays a rookie T