Corona Virus

[stirs]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

There is an excellent two part Covid documentary on Netflix. You should check it out. Goes into this 

Might try to check out tonight.

Would figure the asymptomatic people will be addressed in the documentary. 

[Whatev]

Snap...you are president and have a say in vaccine trials.  Who gets it first.  Go.  

[45catfan]

Now the CCP is trying to steal developmental vaccines from America.  Unreal.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

15 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Now the CCP is trying to steal developmental vaccines from America.  Unreal.

Why wouldn't we be openly cooperating with all nations in an effort to create a viable vaccine?

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Why wouldn't we be openly cooperating with all nations in an effort to create a viable vaccine?

We are, but that doesn't stop the CCP from covertly trying to steal and possibly improve upon research already done by America and other countries.  Nothing new, most of their country's "success" is from theft.  Global leaders in piracy of intellectual property.  I mean, they unleashed this virus upon the world and should have a few months head start on an experimental vaccine of their own.

[Wes21]

22 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

We are, but that doesn't stop the CCP from covertly trying to steal and possibly improve upon research already done by America and other countries.  Nothing new, most of their country's "success" is from theft.  Global leaders in piracy of intellectual property.  I mean, they unleashed this virus upon the world and should have a few months head start on an experimental vaccine of their own.

Going back to his question - what exactly would they be "stealing" if we are openly sharing and cooperating with the international community?  And if someone finds a way to improve on the research of COVID - why is that a bad thing?

[45catfan]

35 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

Going back to his question - what exactly would they be "stealing" if we are openly sharing and cooperating with the international community?  And if someone finds a way to improve on the research of COVID - why is that a bad thing?

When their spies are covertly hacking into data bases, that is different than openly sharing ideas.  Why is that hard to understand?  We share some military intel with other counties, so therefore it's okay for their spy agencies to hack into the DODs database?

[Wes21]

14 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

When their spies are covertly hacking into data bases, that is different than openly sharing ideas.  Why is that hard to understand?  We share some military intel with other counties, so therefore it's okay for their spy agencies to hack into the DODs database?

We are talking about a virus that the entire world should be working together to beat.  Hacking into databases and such is bad.  But I'm still trying to wrap my head around how them getting and improving on something COVID related would be a bad thing, and why we would be hiding it from them to begin with.

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

We are talking about a virus that the entire world should be working together to beat.  Hacking into databases and such is bad.  But I'm still trying to wrap my head around how them getting and improving on something COVID related would be a bad thing, and why we would be hiding it from them to begin with.

Do you think if they found a successful vaccine based from data they stole, they would actual share it?  This is the same county that hoarded PPE in the early days of the pandemic.  Good global neighbors, right?  

[Wes21]

4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Do you think if they found a successful vaccine based from data they stole, they would actual share it?  This is the same county that hoarded PPE in the early days of the pandemic.  Good global neighbors, right?  

Why are we hiding data that we should be working with the rest of the world on?

[45catfan]

10 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

Why are we hiding data that we should be working with the rest of the world on?

Propriety work, man.  Also, nothing has been approved yet.  The best I know a couple of candidates have hit phase 3 of trials.  So we share vaccines that have not been proven effective yet?  If and when they get FDA approval, we will share it.    

Chinese hackers charged stealing coronavirus research

Edited July 21, 2020 by 45catfan

[Wes21]

7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Propriety work, man.  Also, nothing has been approved yet.  The best I know a couple of candidates have hit phase 3 of trials.  So we share vaccines that have not been proven effective yet?  If and when they get FDA approval, we will share it.    

We are supposed to be sharing, yes.  This is not a normal situation, this is a global pandemic.

Edited July 21, 2020 by Wes21

[CRA]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

We are, but that doesn't stop the CCP from covertly trying to steal and possibly improve upon research already done by America and other countries.  Nothing new, most of their country's "success" is from theft.  Global leaders in piracy of intellectual property.  I mean, they unleashed this virus upon the world and should have a few months head start on an experimental vaccine of their own.

well, we aren't openly sharing with the world.   

I mean we are in a global pandemic.  Handling it poorly.  And we just withdrew from the World Health Org. 

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, Wes21 said:

We are supposed to be sharing, yes.  This is not a normal situation, this is a global pandemic.

Okay, I'm done.  Espionage and intellectual property theft is okay in a pandemic.