Panthers To Allow Cam Newton To Seek Trade

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58 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Cam holds the t’d record is on Vick’s heels as far as the rushing record, except the inevitable.

now we’re changing the argument, you said name a hof qb his stats compare to I told you everyone except you Brady’s, joe Montana’s  

First no I am not changing the subject. Cam's PASSING stats are nowhere near his contemporaries. You can't compare Cam to Montana no more than you can compare Mohomes to Montana. Totally different eras.  And for me, like the vast majority of most NFL fans and I presume coaches and FOs, I like my QB to be good at passing. And Cam is not. Because the history is clear. QBs that depend on the run to set up passes are short lived and are not very efficient. The only one close is Steve Young who had an exceptional career and is a HOF. And cam is not on the same planet as him. 

As for running sure Cam has way more TDs but  Vick has 1100 MORE yards rushing on 50 LESS attempts. Cam will be lucky if he gets 600 yards more in his career based on injury history and wear and tear. He needs to concentrate on becoming a better passer to extend his career. which he should have done years ago. HIs throwing mechanics are still god awful. 

[Black&BlueBubba]

11 minutes ago, RASTAN66 said:

Why would the pay level be different in the 2 scenarios?

Once Cam becomes a free agent his value drops 50% for some reason?

If Cam is ready to play why would he have to sign deal 50% lower than Teddy Bridgewater?

Given their respective track records should Cam command a better track record than Teddy?

Because there are very few open spots left.  It’s the Chargers and who else????   And if that’s the case they hold all the cards.  It’s starting to look like Cam won’t even start this year.  What a tragedy.  

[RASTAN66]

9 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

Because there are very few open spots left.  It’s the Chargers and who else????   And if that’s the case they hold all the cards.  It’s starting to look like Cam won’t even start this year.  What a tragedy.  

Doesn't explain why Cam would be paid 50% less after becoming a free agent.

I don't think the Chargers are an option.  Everything I read says they are going roll with Tyrod short-term and draft Tua or Justin for the future.

Ditto Dolphins.

By my estimation the only open spot is the Patriots. 

Was with a friend yesterday who is a New England native life-long Patriots fan and he thinks Cam & Belichick would be repulsed by each other in equal measures!

Agree that the odds of Cam being an NFL starter on opening day are exceedingly low.  Will be interesting to see how things go between Cam and his agent.

[Black&BlueBubba]

1 minute ago, RASTAN66 said:

Doesn't explain why Cam would be paid 50% less after becoming a free agent.

I don't think the Chargers are an option.  Everything I read says they are going roll with Tyrod short-term and draft Tua or Justin for the future.

Ditto Dolphins.

By my estimation the only open spot is the Patriots. 

Was with a friend yesterday who is a New England native life-long Patriots fan and he thinks Cam & Belichick would be repulsed by each other in equal measures!

Right.   Since there is no demand who the hell is gonna pay full value for Cam.  You just made my point.  There isn’t a team left that needs him.  Therefore his value is diminished.  Supply and Demand my friend.  

[steven8989]

4 minutes ago, RASTAN66 said:

Doesn't explain why Cam would be paid 50% less after becoming a free agent.

I don't think the Chargers are an option.  Everything I read says they are going roll with Tyrod short-term and draft Tua or Justin for the future.

Ditto Dolphins.

By my estimation the only open spot is the Patriots. 

Was with a friend yesterday who is a New England native life-long Patriots fan and he thinks Cam & Belichick would be repulsed by each other in equal measures!

Agree that the odds of Cam being an NFL starter on opening day are exceedingly low.  Will be interesting to see how things go between Cam and his agent.

I think he is going to Redskins 

[RASTAN66]

6 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

Right.   Since there is no demand who the hell is gonna pay full value for Cam.  You just made my point.  There isn’t a team left that needs him.  Therefore his value is diminished.  Supply and Demand my friend.  

Curious, what do you think full value is for Cam?

[RASTAN66]

8 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

I think he is going to Redskins 

Definitely one of less than a handful of hypothetical options.

Do you think Rivera really wants him?

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2 minutes ago, RASTAN66 said:

Curious, what do you think full value is for Cam?

tree fiddy

[Tbe]

10 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

I think he is going to Redskins 

If teams can’t have a real off season, then I think the odds of Ron grabbing Cam goes up.. Cam already knows Scott’s system.

[KatsAzz]

So far no team seems to want Cam and very day that passes and no team signs him is one day closer to his NFL career  being over. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

1 hour ago, Bytes said:

First no I am not changing the subject. Cam's PASSING stats are nowhere near his contemporaries. You can't compare Cam to Montana no more than you can compare Mohomes to Montana. Totally different eras.  And for me, like the vast majority of most NFL fans and I presume coaches and FOs, I like my QB to be good at passing. And Cam is not. Because the history is clear. QBs that depend on the run to set up passes are short lived and are not very efficient. The only one close is Steve Young who had an exceptional career and is a HOF. And cam is not on the same planet as him. 

As for running sure Cam has way more TDs but  Vick has 1100 MORE yards rushing on 50 LESS attempts. Cam will be lucky if he gets 600 yards more in his career based on injury history and wear and tear. He needs to concentrate on becoming a better passer to extend his career. which he should have done years ago. HIs throwing mechanics are still god awful. 

You ask specifically to compare him to a hof qb than are saying it’s unfair cause it was a different era......come on man, and you do realize these qbs you keep gushing over spend majority of there careers with hof wrs right? You can have crisp clean cut throwing mechanics but if the wrs ain’t open they ain’t open point blank period, you said he wouldn’t sniff the hof that is laughable when you compare ACCOMPLISHMENTS to his contemporaries not just stats 

[Black&BlueBubba]

1 hour ago, RASTAN66 said:

Curious, what do you think full value is for Cam?

I don’t think anyone knows that right now.  Cam’s people have been desperately trying to work a trade and no one will even sniff the 20 mil for next year. I think a lot of that is because he can’t get a real physical from any team.  The current country’s situation has left it so teams cannot determine his health.  So because they can’t determine a value they are looking elsewhere. Sad to see.  

[Call Me James]

1 hour ago, KatsAzz said:

So far no team seems to want Cam and very day that passes and no team signs him is one day closer to his NFL career  being over. 

Teams just being smart. They'll get him for less than 20mil if they wait until he's cut. 

[RASTAN66]

13 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

I don’t think anyone knows that right now.  Cam’s people have been desperately trying to work a trade and no one will even sniff the 20 mil for next year. I think a lot of that is because he can’t get a real physical from any team.

Tom Brady completed his physical last Thursday the 19th.