The 4th Round Big Board for non-scoffers

[bigdavis]

still more:

Vs. Obvious Passing Situations

In part due to small sample sizes, this is an area that lacks the same predictive strength of the other lists we have looked at, so we have maintained the two-year look at the data set. This is a top 10 in PFF grade over the past couple of years in obvious passing situations — how each player performed when everybody was focused on the pass and usually targeting a specific landmark to move the chains.

Rank	Name	Team	PFF grade	TGT	REC	COMP%	RTG
1	Amik Robertson	LA TECH	91.0	29	12	41.4%	26.4

[bigdavis]

and lastly, cause you're all getting bored with how good this kid is:

In contested-catch situations

Contesting catches is a vital part of coverage, and while the volume and percentage of targets that are contested is a significant indicator of quality coverage, that’s effectively taken care of already with the other subsets we’ve covered. What isn’t, necessarily, is the performance of the corner at the catch point when they do get to contest targets. Which players have been able to limit the damage most effectively when they have contested targets over the past two seasons?

Rank	Name	Team	PFF grade	TGT	REC	COMP%	RTG
1	Amik Robertson	LA TECH	98.3	38	9	23.7%	14.4
2	Zane Lewis	AIR FORCE	96.3	27	3	11.1%	36.5
3	Kristian Fulton	LSU	95.1	38	9	23.7%	44.0
4	Trajan Bandy	MIAMI FL	95.0	21	6	28.6%	16.5
5	Bryce Hall	VIRGINIA	94.9	29	5	17.2%	53.2
6	Jeff Gladney	TCU	94.7	46	10	21.7%	39.1
7	Nevelle Clarke	UCF	93.8	31	9	29.0%	26.0
8	Lamar Jackson	NEBRASKA	93.5	32	7	21.9%	1.2
9	Trevon Diggs	ALABAMA	93.2	27	10	37.0%	37.0
10	Dane Jackson	PITTSBURGH	93.1	33	11	33.3%	70.4

Again, over a two-year sample, it’s becoming hard to find a way of slicing the data that doesn’t have Amik Robertson at the top. Again, he has the highest grade on these plays. Obviously, this subset is a group of positive plays for corners by and large, so the grades are higher across the board, but Robertson also allowed a passer rating of just 14.4 on targets that he managed to contest. 

[MHS831]

6 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Leki Fotu, DT, Utah is another Huddle favorite, and a fav of mine as well. I like his long arms, he's massive, but he has really low body fat for a guy his size. He's very lean so he won't get gassed out there like the fat guys. Great run stuffer. Fotu and Biadasz are Huddle mock favorites.

I like him too, but if we play Brown at NT and we have Kerr....then I figured we needed a 3T--but Brown's versatility is confusing.

[MHS831]

6 minutes ago, bigdavis said:

and more:

Vs. Passes that were thrown in 3 seconds or less

As I hinted at when I talked about pressure, the longer a corner is asked to cover for, the harder it is for him. Research has indicated that performance on plays up to and including three seconds between snap to throw is a strong critical factor in projecting coverage, so here is that top 10, again over a two-year sample. 

Rank	Name	Team	PFF grade	TGT	REC	COMP%	RTG
1	Trevon Diggs	ALABAMA	92.5	59	24	40.7%	43.5
1	Amik Robertson	LA TECH	92.5	127	70	55.1%	53.1

SOLD

[Shocker]

47 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Give Me All that Beef.

 

Pair Fotu and Brown up front.  Will take up near the whole OL

You like that big beef don't ya

[GOAT]

I love the 4th and 5th round. I feel like it's where some of the best players are made.

it's full of guys that have dropped, have injuries, concerns, etc.

can't wait to see who we get with these next two picks.

[pantherj]

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I like him too, but if we play Brown at NT and we have Kerr....then I figured we needed a 3T--but Brown's versatility is confusing.

I seriously doubt we'll draft either player. Fotu isn't needed at this point, and Tyler doesn't fit our system. But I like bother players and had them in my old Panthers mock draft.

[MHS831]

16 minutes ago, ecu88 said:

We need a CB with size and 100% need Oline interior depth.

 

4th Reggie Robinson II, DB; 6'1 with speed and has played safety before.

5th Keith Ismael, C/G; nice find @MHS831

Thanks---I just noticed him, but 45 has been mocking him in the 5th, so I share the glory...Reggie Robinson--I think I read something about the Panthers liking him---virtual meeting or something.

[MHS831]

I think (after listening to Bucky and watching the Robertson video) I am locked in on Amik Robertson CB (nickel).   I would not be surprised to see us throw in a sixth to move up.  Heard it here first.

[Ratzer]

I want Bryce Hall, solid Nr. 2 corner - in the 4th round thats tremendous value. Next year you can target CB or QB depending on draft position. 

[Shocker]

How bout NETANE MUTI?  He is highly rated by PFF 

[45catfan]

Just now, Rogue Panther said:

He shys away from contact and isn't fast. 

....and has an injury history.  You look at the all the measureables and Hall looks like an ideal pick, but you look at the stats and Robertson is the pick.

I think analytics wins out and Robertson is the pick.  Remember, folks scoffed at Steve Smith's size too.  If this guys is like a pesky gnat and sticks like glue to the WR, those high-point catches shouldn't be that much of an issue.  He'll lose his share of those I suppose, but blanket coverage is more important than getting "Mossed" every so often.

[Shocker]

3 minutes ago, Rogue Panther said:

dude gets injured every season. has played 5 games in 2 years. 

[saX man]

I would absolutely LOVE Davis-Gaither.  Justin Strnad is another name to watch at OLB.

Charles (Joe Brady's Left Tackle btw), may be more of a guard at the next level but could be pretty good.  Swing tackle depth type but GOOD depth. 

CB wise, Bryce Hall of course but Reggie Robinson and Dane Jackson are guys who could still have impact and have starter potential.  Troy Pride is interesting as well.

There's also some awesome sleeper talent available at WR: AGG, Isaiah Hodgins, Coulter, Gabe Davis, Tyler Johnson (Pleaseeee)