Kk short and Derek brown were not the problem

[Mister]

 Defensive ends were the biggest reason for our lack of pass rush and run stopping .

On a YPC basis the Panthers were not terrible against the run. We gave up a few big plays and most of them had a common factor, DEs taking poor angles and going too far up field.

Burns continues to push way too far up field against the run and pass which is why I remain skeptical on him. 

I remember at least 2 specific occasions where the play side had the holes blocked up but the RB bounced backside due to Burns and YGM being too far up field and leaving a big cut back lane. 

Need to see a lot more out of both of these guys for them to meet the hype. It seems that Burns didn't get the memo that we are running a 4-3 now. It looks like he got used to last year's D, where the OLB pushes further in. He was the only player making me yell at the screen. The rest of the failures were expected.

[SCPantherFan90]

I agree with your sentiment about the defensive ends, but KK looked washed up to me. I noticed him make one play on the very first drive. Other than that, I only noticed him get manhandled with one-on-one match-ups. It's the first game of the season, so it's too early to officially say he's done, but he's not off to a good start.

[kungfoodude]

Well, technically per NFL Next Gen Stats the breakdown was as follows(Jacobs and Booker):

Wide Left: 8 attempts for 45 yards(5.6 ypc)

Inside Left: 5 attempts for 24 yards(4.8 ypc)

Inside Right: 6 attempts for 18 yards(3.0 ypc)

Wide Right: 10 attempts for 35 yards(3.5 ypc)

 

It actually looks more like the left side of the line is the weakness, not so much the ends. 

[WelshPanther]

23 minutes ago, SCPantherFan90 said:

I agree with your sentiment about the defensive ends, but KK looked washed up to me. I noticed him make one play on the very first drive. Other than that, I only noticed him get manhandled with one-on-one match-ups. It's the first game of the season, so it's too early to officially say he's done, but he's not off to a good start.

I agree KK didn’t show up on Sunday but it was also his first competitive game in probably 18 months if not longer. Let’s see what he is like in the next few weeks.

[bigdog10]

You know what absolutely sucks about Burns is I think he could be an absolute stud in the right system. The problem is we played this game of flip flop with defensive schemes and now he is completely positionless in this defense. 
 

I hope he can prove me wrong and hold his own in the running game. Unfortunately, it just feels like he’s completely out of place as a 4-3 end. 

[RJK]

Burns runs himself out of every play for sure but there was zero pressure up the middle either. Nobody on defense seems to like contact outside of Chinn 

[raleigh-panther]

51 minutes ago, bigdog10 said:

You know what absolutely sucks about Burns is I think he could be an absolute stud in the right system. The problem is we played this game of flip flop with defensive schemes and now he is completely positionless in this defense. 
 

I hope he can prove me wrong and hold his own in the running game. Unfortunately, it just feels like he’s completely out of place as a 4-3 end. 

They should have traded him. He is light. Very very light. He is at best a 3 4 not a 4 3. Not stout enough to hold that edge in a 4 3 and that’s why he was there when Rivera drafted him 

I sometimes wonder whose idea it really was to go to a 3 4 

[Mistuh Jones]

Y'all tripping off the first game of the season but huddle gonna huddle