Panthers to have limited fans on 10/4

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15 hours ago, FeelTheBurns53 said:

It's about time. And the NFL should seriously consider rescinding the fines on vic fangio, Carroll, and shannahan. This whole mask wearing requirement bs is just that, bullshit, and it's been that way since day one. Fauci should be in prison. 

Either way, politicizing a so called public health crisis is criminal, and this will all magically disappear after Nov 3rd. 

We ain't stupid 

So, you politicized it in your opening statement, then told us it was criminal to politicize it.

And, we are stupid. All you need to do is go to the grocery store and watch as people make a conscious decision to not wear a mask, go the wrong way up and down the aisles and not maintain any distance. 3 pretty basic health precautions, yet stupid people make stupid and selfish decisions everyday that not only could impact their health, but those around them. But, I guess if you never know who you might have infected or when and likewise yourself, I guess those decisions come easy.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Aw, FeelTheBurns is scared to wear a lil masky mask. Muh Freedoms!

[Peon Awesome]

9 hours ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

I think the underlying logic is that, with frequent testing, contact tracing, and presumably not a lot of exposure to people not wearing masks, it's fairly safe to be in a controlled environment playing a contact sport against other people once a week.  It'd be like living in a house with four other people and not wearing masks at home but all four engaging in as many risk mitigation factors as possible when in public.  Except on a larger scale and with things like instant testing and contact tracing at your disposal.

Let's not forget that these guys are getting tested constantly and they're wearing tracking devices once they enter a team facility too.  If somebody tests positive the contact tracing is much more fast and robust than what's available to like 99% of the public.  The way I understand it, contact tracers can generate a heat map and almost instantly know every staff person, coach, player, and so on they were around.

Yeah but the coaches are also getting tested every day. Shouldn't the same logic apply? I'm not actually against the policy because I think it's better to be overly cautious than not but the way they are fining the coaches so severely while not minding that players go without masks all game seems to be an inconsistent message. I'm sure if it was up to the league, players would play with some face protection too but seems no one would go for that. Just would seem perhaps more consistent to make masks recommended but not a severe finable offense for coaches if you're going to argue that daily testing makes the risk low enough that you allow the players to go maskless. 

[Peon Awesome]

12 hours ago, FeelTheBurns53 said:

Exactly. And it's a little hard to believe that India, with a population of over a billion and one of the highest homelessness rates in the world has somehow managed to keep their death toll under 100k. Numbers just don't add up, not to mention the amount of asymptomatic patients overall from what is supposed to be a very nasty and dibilitating disease that attack your lungs and respiratory system makes you raise an eyebrow as well. 

That and the cdc stating only 6% of covid deaths are solely caused by covid, 94% died with some other serious underlying condition like terminal illness or cancer, all the states that had to roll back their death counts bc they were literally classifying even suicide deaths as covid deaths just bc they tested positive after the fact, the amount of false positives reported by antibody testing, only to find out they never had covid to begin with, all the monetary incentives the government is providing hospitals to treat covid deaths (more if the patient is treated on a ventilator), all the back and forth between the CDC, WHO, and the NIH as far as guidelines go, all the social media censorship of doctors and other Healthcare professionals coming out and literally exposing the truth of the pandemic, the multiple patents before the first case of covid 19 was even known, the fact that the Wuhan institute of virology was literally studying the coronavirus strain in their lab before it was released, etc etc. 

Let's also not forget event 201 in 2019, which was a pandemic simulation held by John's Hopkins, the very institite in charge of tracking covid 19 infections and deaths. Just too many coincidences for you to not question the official narrative. 

Not saying the virus isn't real, but this could have easily been deliberately released on the public for political purposes, a sort of modern day biological warfare election meddling tool to get back at trump, the tariffs, and the trade deals that suffocated china's economy, leading the democrats to shut down some of the largest cities and states in the world purposely crashing the economy and ending all the economic prosperity we were all enjoying under this administration. Let's also not forget all the race riots going on a few months before the election. Can you even remember the last election the race card wasn't played by the left? Remember the dallas riots in 2016? It's just comical that society caves in time and time again to one of the most common and oldest political tactics in the book (divide and conquer) just to garner votes. 

Whoa you've got quite a bit of misinformation there and some scary level of conspiracy theory going on. Your CDC death report is way off. It showed 6% only had COVID listed on the death certificate. That doesn't mean at all what you said. As someone who has written about 2 dozen death certificateswhen I was in training, you're typically told to write down everything that contributed to their death. If someone put COVID and respiratory failure on the death certificate, which pretty much everyone should at least, that wouldn't have been included in the 6% even though nothing other than COVID caused the death. If they had kidney failure from COVID or myocarditis or anything else, that's not part of the 6%. So it has nothing to do with preexisting conditions. It's something right wingers took and misinterpreted as political propaganda because they have a lack of understanding of medicine. Honestly the 6% is mostly from doctors too lazy to add anything else because you can always add something to the death certificate. COVID can't kill you without causing something whether it's lung/heart/kidney failure or blood clots or what.

Antibodies cannot tell you if someone had a false positive antigen test. That's impossible. Some people don't mount an antibody response. Some take weeks to months. Some have false negative antibodies since the antigen is a more sensitive test. So that is a very wrong statement too.

I don't have time or energy to review all the other nonsense you wrote. If you want to sit inside your sheltered ignorant life listening to your own sources without validation, I doubt anything I will say will change your mind. It will just be more of the corrupt fake sheeple liberal mob talking. But as someone on the front lines, literally my first day working at a new hospital in July (not huge, mid sized), 3 patients on my list died from COVID. And I'm a specialist only consulting on a small percentage. I wasn't even seeing 90% of the COVID patients in the hospital. So excuse me if I don't buy that it's a worldwide conspiracy to make papa Trump look bad. 

[MHS831]

When you say "limited" fans, you are referring to the overall number of them, correct?

[Davidson Deac II]

8 hours ago, cookinbrak said:

Because one was in NC and one was in SC?

Exactly.  Its interesting that people think this happens because of the schools, the ACC, or the NCAA.  They function the way they do based on the rules of the state they are playing in.  

[NAS]

Raise your hands, who's planning to go to a game this season?