New PFF Mock (Interesting Panthers Pick, new QB in top-15)

[nctarheelreincarnated]

21 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

We also had the best QB we have ever had during the same time period.  So you shouldn't take a QB top 10?

If Lance is still there, you take him. I’m exhausted with defensive guys being taken early AF. Regardless if Parsons is a beast or not. If he’s so good, trade some picks from the next year for him. Boom. Problem solved. 

[1of10Charnatives]

1 hour ago, Rags said:

Seriously having command over the middle of the field is important.

I agree.

Important BUT not fundamentally game changing to the point you make it the very top priority of your draft when drafting that high. If you are drafting in the top 5 then your roster lacks talent at positions that have a greater impact on the game than linebacker. Ever seen a team with a solid qb, solid tackles and a solid pass rush draft top 5 without trading into it?

Note what I did not say. I did not say I would never take a lb first round. I said I would not take one top 5.

[jfra78]

56 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Did you read my whole post or just the first few lines?

Skimmed admitedly.  It was like 6 am give me slack

[*FreeFua*]

32 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

If Lance is still there, you take him. I’m exhausted with defensive guys being taken early AF. Regardless if Parsons is a beast or not. If he’s so good, trade some picks from the next year for him. Boom. Problem solved. 

I’m not a huge fan of using a top 10 pick on a LB either but I have a huge draft crush on Parsons, he’s that good.

However, I really hope we target Garrett Bolles and Haason Reddick in FA allowing us to then go Rosseau, Chase or Surtain/Farley (assuming the QB’s are gone). 

I can’t imagine us being in position to draft Sewell and it’s long overdue that we lock up the tackle positions. Bolles and Moton both at a solid age to hold it down for the long term future. 

I suggest Reddick so we can kick Shaq inside and it would allow us to use our top 10 pick on a position other than LB

[nctarheelreincarnated]

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’m not a huge fan of using a top 10 pick on a LB either but I have a huge draft crush on Parsons, he’s that good.

However, I really hope we target Garrett Bolles and Haason Reddick in FA allowing us to then go Rosseau, Chase or Surtain/Farley (assuming the QB’s are gone). 

I can’t imagine us being in position to draft Sewell and it’s long overdue that we lock up the tackle positions. Bolles and Moton both at a solid age to hold it down for the long term future. 

I suggest Reddick so we can kick Shaq inside and it would allow us to use our top 10 pick on a position other than LB

My question for you. If somehow, and this is a big IF. If Lance and Parsons are there, who do you take? 

I seriously am so fuging pissed there are so many bad teams in the NFL. We picked the wrong damn year to rebuild. So frustrating. The NFL being this bad, could set the rebuild back a while. 

Because next year, we won't be shitty enough to pick in the top 5 either. So, we probably won't be able to pick Spencer Rattler or Sam Howell. Just so stupid. 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

4 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Skimmed admitedly.  It was like 6 am give me slack

Gotta get that coffee bruh! HAHA. 

[*FreeFua*]

16 hours ago, saX man said:

This guy is typically pretty tough on prospects and had a nice Morgan video:

 

That’s JT O’Sullivan, I’ve watched a fair bit of his videos. They’re a decent watch for sure. 

Completely agree with you on Mond and Newman. Not a fan of many of the QB’s this draft outside of Lawrence and Lance tbh. 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

Just now, *FreeFua* said:

That’s JT O’Sullivan, I’ve watched a fair bit of his videos. They’re a decent watch for sure. 

Completely agree with you on Mond and Newman. Not a fan of many of the QB’s this draft outside of Lawrence and Lance tbh. 

Me neither. Curious to see how Trask continues this year. If there was any year for the Huddle posters to start watching CFB, this would be the year. 

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

My question for you. If somehow, and this is a big IF. If Lance and Parsons are there, who do you take? 

I seriously am so fuging pissed there are so many bad teams in the NFL. We picked the wrong damn year to rebuild. So frustrating. The NFL being this bad, could set the rebuild back a while. 

Because next year, we won't be shitty enough to pick in the top 5 either. So, we probably won't be able to pick Spencer Rattler or Sam Howell. Just so stupid. 

If Brady is not sold on lance then trade down.  Its that simple.  Trade the eff down. 

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

My question for you. If somehow, and this is a big IF. If Lance and Parsons are there, who do you take? 

I seriously am so fuging pissed there are so many bad teams in the NFL. We picked the wrong damn year to rebuild. So frustrating. The NFL being this bad, could set the rebuild back a while. 

Because next year, we won't be shitty enough to pick in the top 5 either. So, we probably won't be able to pick Spencer Rattler or Sam Howell. Just so stupid. 

I know you’re not going to want to hear this but let’s see how Teddy progresses throughout the season first. 
 

However, if Teddy doesn’t turn into the guy I think he’s capable of becoming with time then it would be pretty damn hard to make the argument against drafting Lance if you think he can be ‘that guy’. So yah, if Teddy doesn’t keep progressing then we better take Lance if he’s there. Especially if it’s him or Parsons.

[*FreeFua*]

4 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Me neither. Curious to see how Trask continues this year. If there was any year for the Huddle posters to start watching CFB, this would be the year. 

Yeah, even Trask as of right now he does nothing for me

[nctarheelreincarnated]

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

I know you’re not going to want to hear this but let’s see how Teddy progresses throughout the season first. 
 

However, if Teddy doesn’t turn into the guy I think he’s capable of becoming with time then it would be pretty damn hard to make the argument against drafting Lance if you think he can be ‘that guy’. So yah, if Teddy doesn’t keep progressing then we better take Lance if he’s there. Especially if it’s him or Parsons.

Okay. I'm with you. As most are, I'm over Teddy. You can tell he's not what we need him to be.

Also, my logic is keeping Teddy on. Having him mentor Lance. Because Lance isn't close to a finished product, he's RAW. We're gonna have to let him sit a while and get up to speed. So, it's a win/win for the fanbase if we draft him. Because Teddy is starting the year after regardless. 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I know you’re not going to want to hear this but let’s see how Teddy progresses throughout the season first. 
 

However, if Teddy doesn’t turn into the guy I think he’s capable of becoming with time then it would be pretty damn hard to make the argument against drafting Lance if you think he can be ‘that guy’. So yah, if Teddy doesn’t keep progressing then we better take Lance if he’s there. Especially if it’s him or Parsons.

Yeah I get that and I am not going to go to the "is teddy good" argument.  Its too early in the morning but heres the thing.  The model now to win in the nfl is to do it with a qb on a rookie deal and using the rest of the salary cap to fill out with players that contribute up and down the roster.  We dont have that now.  We will not be able to do it on his current salary or the new one he is going to have to get if we decide he is the long term answer.  Thats a big factor for me in wanting to draft a rookie qb.  That and letting brady work with him.

[Jeremy Igo]

Just now, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Okay. I'm with you. As most are, I'm over Teddy.

Are you pretending like you ever gave him a chance to begin with?