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If you were in Moton's shoes...


Mr. Scot

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Just now, MHS831 said:

RR never gave his  a look when our OTs were holding carboard signs---I do not know the reason, but he had the open-mindedness of a very close-minded person.  (thought that one up myself) 

Might he get a shot there now?  I would play him there to see.  This season is not the one, folks.  We are not there yet.  Sure we won a few games, our schedule is getting rough now.  Why not find who wants to play and where they can help you the most?

Trent Scott is an idea.  And you can find a RT in the second or third rounds, where a stud LT is likely to be gone by the middle of the first.

Trent Scott might be better than Little, but that's not saying much.

And yeah, if Okung can't go I absolutely give Moton a shot at left tackle this season. Hard to imagine he'd be worse than Little, and Scott is best suited to be a backup/swing guy.

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Moton will go wherever he gets the best contract. Are you telling me if the Panthers offered him $16 million per year with $50 million guarantees and another team offered $14 million with $40 guaranteed but with the promise they would try him at LT, he would go there? He risks potentially looking less impressive at an unfamiliar position just to be listed at a slightly more valuable position when he's looking for a new contract in 5 years. Seems stupid to me. As others have said, the difference in value between right and left is progressively disappearing. And he's almost certain to earn more as an elite RT than a decent LT. So unless he's confident he will be at least as effective, if not more on the left, which seems dubious, doesn't make much sense.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you "knew what you were talking about" you'd know that Okung played right tackle for several games in college.

You might also know that Moton has played left tackle for us on more than one occasion, so he's not "experimenting".

But hey...

Dude, Okung was drafted in 2010.  That is a decade since he played right tackle... but yeah, you proved your point.

God, you are so freakin' annoying.  You have no clue what you are talking about, and you seem to always want to suggest that you know something the coaches don't.  And then you move goal-posts completely.

Live in your fantasy land.  The fact is, three different coaching staffs have felt Moton is best at right tackle.  There is no reason to move him to LT.    There is also no reason for Moton to turn down a long-term contract here just so that he can play left tackle elsewhere because guess what?  THE MONEY IS DAMN NEAR IDENTICAL.  The only outlier is Laremy Tunsil, and Moton would NEVER get that kind of money.  
 

Like the root of your post literally doesn't make any sense.  Moton has no reason to decline a great money contract here unless he just didn't wanna stay in Carolina.  And Carolina wouldn't be smart to move their best player on the offensive line to a different position.  
 

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2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Scott when RT lane Johnson signed his deal, he was the highest paid OL/OT. Raiders made Trent Brown the highest paid OL in the league soon after and they put him as RT. Wasnt until Tunsil and Stanely signed this year that those dea;s where passed. The tag for OT is around 15 million, thats the best bet for panthers. Then work out some deal to lower the number to 5 milllion and push allllll money to the future. 

Hes going to get paid, by the panthers or someone else will. If Im Moton, looking for the best deal. 

Nah bro.  Moton gonna leave here so that he can play left tackle for... reasons.

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When has a team EVER swapped their right tackle and left tackle mid-season, as is being suggested we do with Moton and Okung?

Like that isn't even something that is a thing.  And yet somehow I don't know what I'm talking about because I think it's a foolish idea lol

Mr. Scot, can you name one team that's done that before?  

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Just now, Mage said:

Dude, Okung was drafted in 2010.  That is a decade since he played right tackle... but yeah, you proved your point.

God, you are so freakin' annoying.  You have no clue what you are talking about, and you seem to always want to suggest that you know something the coaches don't.  And then you move goal-posts completely.

Live in your fantasy land.  The fact is, three different coaching staffs have felt Moton is best at right tackle.  There is no reason to move him to LT.    There is also no reason for Moton to turn down a long-term contract here just so that he can play left tackle elsewhere because guess what?  THE MONEY IS DAMN NEAR IDENTICAL.  The only outlier is Laremy Tunsil, and Moton would NEVER get that kind of money.  

Like the root of your post literally doesn't make any sense.  Moton has no reason to decline a great money contract here unless he just didn't wanna stay in Carolina.  And Carolina wouldn't be smart to move their best player on the offensive line to a different position.  

Taylor Moton was drafted in 2017. You're saying the Panthers have had three different coaching staffs in that time?

(and you question other people's recollection of the facts?)

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Finding the answer at LT before the end of the season would be huge.  He needs to play there for several weeks because there are different types of rushers.  When Moton has played LT in preseason, he did not look that good, fwiw---but how serious were they?

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2 minutes ago, Mage said:

When has a team EVER swapped their right tackle and left tackle mid-season, as is being suggested we do with Moton and Okung?

Like that isn't even something that is a thing.  And yet somehow I don't know what I'm talking about because I think it's a foolish idea lol

Mr. Scot, can you name one team that's done that before?  

Jason Peters moved back to left tackle this season when Andre Dillard went down. Right tackles moving left is actually a very common thing.

As to Okung moving right, if Moron proves reliable at the left, why take him out?

 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you switch Moton, you put Okung at right tackle if he's healthy and if not Trent Scott.

Why would you take an all-pro, career LT and move him to RT just to experiment with your RT playing on the left?  That doesn't even make any sense.

You are putting too much emphasis on "Left".  It's strange that our fan base forgets so easily.  Was it our left tackle that made Von Miller a legend?  Of course not.  The defense will bring pressure from wherever they feel we are the weakest.  "Left" tackle was a lot more important when all a QB did was stand in the pocket.  That's just not the NFL today.

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1 minute ago, Mage said:

Nah bro.  Moton gonna leave here so that he can play left tackle for... reasons.

He could be like D.williams and just prefer RT. Williams hated the foot placement on LT, it is very different about which foot you push off/set with. Being Comfy is key to many. IS moton left handed tho........

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2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Finding the answer at LT before the end of the season would be huge.  He needs to play there for several weeks because there are different types of rushers.  When Moton has played LT in preseason, he did not look that good, fwiw---but how serious were they?

Disagree. Moton looked quite good at left tackle in preseason games.

The problem was that when we got to the regular season, Ron Rivera pretty much refused to keep him there.

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1 minute ago, BrianS said:

Why would you take an all-pro, career LT and move him to RT just to experiment with your RT playing on the left?  That doesn't even make any sense.

You are putting too much emphasis on "Left".  It's strange that our fan base forgets so easily.  Was it our left tackle that made Von Miller a legend?  Of course not.  The defense will bring pressure from wherever they feel we are the weakest.  "Left" tackle was a lot more important when all a QB did was stand in the pocket.  That's just not the NFL today.

Because the guy playing left right now can't stay healthy and his backup is terrible.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

We don't know. Hence the question.

He hasn't expressed a preference for playing left, but neither has he expressed one for playing right.

The only statements you'll see from Moton are that he can play both and he'll play wherever the team needs him to.

Now if you talk to his agent, that's likely another story.

In that case the answer is easy.

If he really wants to play left tackle and we won't let him, then he will go somewhere that will give him a chance.  If he doesn't care, or is happy being a right tackle, then he will stay with us, assuming we pay him enough.  

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Just now, Davidson Deac II said:

In that case the answer is easy.

If he really wants to play left tackle and we won't let him, then he will go somewhere that will give him a chance.  If he doesn't care, or is happy being a right tackle, then he will stay with us, assuming we pay him enough.  

Reasonable. And thanks for actually addressing the premise of the thread.

I definitely believe that if he becomes a free agent, his agent will look to sell teams on his left tackle potential. That's just smart business.

And like a lot of others, I'm disappointed that we haven't made a move to keep him already.

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