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Barrel does some good stuff but they are too overly proud of the product and price it accordingly. I think that is MGP sourced with some Kentucky distilled juice thrown in, as well.

I'd be more inclined to trade for a sample or try it at a bar first. It isn't hard to get, I see it gathering dust all over the East Coast.

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2 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

If your going for something in that price range go for a Michter's 10 or something.

I mean.....M10 is a lot harder to locate than that. Maybe not at the same price point, though. 

Hard to find it sitting around at MSRP, I know that much.

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