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According to this analytics chart, these are the top drafting teams of the last 10 years

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

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10 minutes ago, blueandblackattack said:

That's a good point as well. I could crunch the numbers for the individual years and break it down for each candidate when they were in executive positions....... but by the time I'm done we'll have a new GM already and won't matter anymore lol

Funny you should say that...

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59 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The guy who was fired last year will bear no responsibility for the final roster next season, and the guy who was fired four years ago sure as hell won't either.

Once you have full control, it's your roster.

(granted, who actually has full control is an ongoing topic of discussion)

Players with long term contacts that have cap implications that span multiple years come with the team. There's really no debating that! It's just the reality, plain and simple.

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Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2020 1 Jordyn Brooks 27 LB 2020 0 0 0 3 14                           Texas Tech
2020 2 Darrell Taylor 48 DE   0 0 0                               Tennessee
2020 3 Damien Lewis 69 G 2020 0 0 1 8 16                           LSU
2020 4 Colby Parkinson 133 TE 2020 0 0 0 0 6                 2 16 0     Stanford
2020 4 DeeJay Dallas 144 RB 2020 0 0 0 2 12           34 108 2 17 111 1     Miami (FL)
2020 5 Alton Robinson 148 DE 2020 0 0 0 2 14                         4.0 Syracuse
2020 6 Freddie Swain 214 WR 2020 0 0 0 2 16                 13 159 2     Florida
2020 7 Stephen Sullivan 251 TE 2020 0 0 0 0 1                           LSU
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2019 1 L.J. Collier 29 DE 2020 0 0 1 8 27                         3.0 TCU
2019 2 Marquise Blair 47 S 2020 0 0 0 2 16                           Utah
2019 2 D.K. Metcalf 64 WR 2020 0 1 2 21 32           2 11 0 141 2203 17     Mississippi
2019 3 Cody Barton 88 LB 2020 0 0 0 4 32                           Utah
2019 4 Gary Jennings Jr 120 WR 2019 0 0 0 0 1                           West Virginia
2019 4 Phil Haynes 124 G 2020 0 0 0 0 2                           Wake Forest
2019 4 Ugo Amadi 132 S 2020 0 0 0 3 30                           Oregon
2019 5 Ben Burr-Kirven 142 LB 2020 0 0 0 2 32                           Washington
2019 6 Travis Homer 204 RB 2020 0 0 0 3 25           43 202 0 20 146 1     Miami (FL)
2019 6 Demarcus Christmas 209 DT   0 0 0                               Florida St.
2019 7 John Ursua 236 WR 2019 0 0 0 0 3                 1 11 0     Hawaii
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2018 1 Rashaad Penny 27 RB 2020 0 0 0 7 27           161 823 5 17 158 1     San Diego St.
2018 3 Rasheem Green 79 DT 2020 0 0 1 6 36                         7.0 USC
2018 4 Will Dissly 120 TE 2020 0 0 2 6 26           1 7 0 55 669 8     Washington
2018 5 Shaquem Griffin 141 OLB 2020 0 0 0 4 46                         1.0 Central Florida
2018 5 Tre Flowers 146 S 2020 0 0 2 14 42                       3 2.0 Oklahoma St.
2018 5 Michael Dickson 149 P 2020 1 1 0 8 48           1 9 0           Texas
2018 5 Jamarco Jones 168 T 2020 0 0 0 5 26                           Ohio St.
2018 6 Jacob Martin 186 LB 2020 0 0 0 5 44                         9.5 Temple
2018 7 Alex McGough 220 QB   0 0 0                               Florida International
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2017 2 Malik McDowell 35 DT   0 0 0                               Michigan St.
2017 2 Ethan Pocic 58 C 2020 0 0 1 14 44                           LSU
2017 3 Shaquill Griffin 90 DB 2020 0 1 4 22 57                       6 1.0 Central Florida
2017 3 Lano Hill 95 S 2020 0 0 0 5 42                           Michigan
2017 3 Nazair Jones 102 DT 2018 0 0 0 3 20                       1 2.0 North Carolina
2017 3 Amara Darboh 106 WR 2017 0 0 0 1 16                 8 71 0     Michigan
2017 4 Tedric Thompson 111 S 2020 0 0 2 8 37                       3   Colorado
2017 6 Michael Tyson 187 S 2018 0 0 0 1 10                           Cincinnati
2017 6 Justin Senior 210 T   0 0 0                               Mississippi St.
2017 7 David Moore 226 WR 2020 0 0 1 11 47           12 91 0 78 1163 13     East Central (OK)
2017 7 Chris Carson 249 RB 2020 0 0 3 28 45           715 3270 21 101 775 7     Oklahoma St.
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2016 1 Germain Ifedi 31 G 2020 0 0 4 34 76                           Texas A&M
2016 2 Jarran Reed 49 DT 2020 0 0 4 29 72                         22.0 Alabama
2016 3 C.J. Prosise 90 RB 2020 0 0 0 5 35           75 283 2 41 411 1     Notre Dame
2016 3 Nick Vannett 94 TE 2020 0 0 2 6 70                 75 686 5     Ohio St.
2016 3 Rees Odhiambo 97 G 2018 0 0 0 4 16                           Boise St.
2016 5 Quinton Jefferson 147 DT 2020 0 0 2 15 55                         10.5 Maryland
2016 5 Alex Collins 171 RB 2020 0 0 2 15 39           375 1586 16 50 380 1     Arkansas
2016 6 Joey Hunt 215 C 2020 0 0 0 7 35                           TCU
2016 7 Kenny Lawler 243 WR   0 0 0                               California
2016 7 Zac Brooks 247 RB   0 0 0                               Clemson
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2015 2 Frank Clark 63 DE 2020 0 2 4 38 91                       2 49.0 Michigan
2015 3 Tyler Lockett 69 WR 2020 1 1 6 45 95           38 256 1 376 4892 37     Kansas St.
2015 4 Terry Poole 130 G   0 0 0                               San Diego St.
2015 4 Mark Glowinski 134 G 2020 0 0 4 26 79                           West Virginia
2015 5 Tye Smith 170 CB 2020 0 0 0 3 40                       1   Towson
2015 6 Obum Gwacham 209 DE 2017 0 0 0 1 15                         2.5 Oregon St.
2015 6 Kristjan Sokoli 214 DT 2015 0 0 0 0 1                           Buffalo
2015 7 Ryan Murphy 248 DB 2017 0 0 0 0 3  

Ummm I'm not sure those analytics are working correctly because as I look at this list, I am thoroughly unimpressed. Metcalf and who? RB in late 1st with under 1000 yards in 2 year? This list makes Carrol and Wilson look great because they have overcome this list and still made it into the playoffs, not the guy we just hired who was the lead college evaluator in these years. 

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Misc       Passing Rushing Receiving      
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2020 1 Jordyn Brooks 27 LB 2020 0 0 0 3 14                           Texas Tech
2020 2 Darrell Taylor 48 DE   0 0 0                               Tennessee
2020 3 Damien Lewis 69 G 2020 0 0 1 8 16                           LSU
2020 4 Colby Parkinson 133 TE 2020 0 0 0 0 6                 2 16 0     Stanford
2020 4 DeeJay Dallas 144 RB 2020 0 0 0 2 12           34 108 2 17 111 1     Miami (FL)
2020 5 Alton Robinson 148 DE 2020 0 0 0 2 14                         4.0 Syracuse
2020 6 Freddie Swain 214 WR 2020 0 0 0 2 16                 13 159 2     Florida
2020 7 Stephen Sullivan 251 TE 2020 0 0 0 0 1                           LSU
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2019 1 L.J. Collier 29 DE 2020 0 0 1 8 27                         3.0 TCU
2019 2 Marquise Blair 47 S 2020 0 0 0 2 16                           Utah
2019 2 D.K. Metcalf 64 WR 2020 0 1 2 21 32           2 11 0 141 2203 17     Mississippi
2019 3 Cody Barton 88 LB 2020 0 0 0 4 32                           Utah
2019 4 Gary Jennings Jr 120 WR 2019 0 0 0 0 1                           West Virginia
2019 4 Phil Haynes 124 G 2020 0 0 0 0 2                           Wake Forest
2019 4 Ugo Amadi 132 S 2020 0 0 0 3 30                           Oregon
2019 5 Ben Burr-Kirven 142 LB 2020 0 0 0 2 32                           Washington
2019 6 Travis Homer 204 RB 2020 0 0 0 3 25           43 202 0 20 146 1     Miami (FL)
2019 6 Demarcus Christmas 209 DT   0 0 0                               Florida St.
2019 7 John Ursua 236 WR 2019 0 0 0 0 3                 1 11 0     Hawaii
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2018 1 Rashaad Penny 27 RB 2020 0 0 0 7 27           161 823 5 17 158 1     San Diego St.
2018 3 Rasheem Green 79 DT 2020 0 0 1 6 36                         7.0 USC
2018 4 Will Dissly 120 TE 2020 0 0 2 6 26           1 7 0 55 669 8     Washington
2018 5 Shaquem Griffin 141 OLB 2020 0 0 0 4 46                         1.0 Central Florida
2018 5 Tre Flowers 146 S 2020 0 0 2 14 42                       3 2.0 Oklahoma St.
2018 5 Michael Dickson 149 P 2020 1 1 0 8 48           1 9 0           Texas
2018 5 Jamarco Jones 168 T 2020 0 0 0 5 26                           Ohio St.
2018 6 Jacob Martin 186 LB 2020 0 0 0 5 44                         9.5 Temple
2018 7 Alex McGough 220 QB   0 0 0                               Florida International
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2017 2 Malik McDowell 35 DT   0 0 0                               Michigan St.
2017 2 Ethan Pocic 58 C 2020 0 0 1 14 44                           LSU
2017 3 Shaquill Griffin 90 DB 2020 0 1 4 22 57                       6 1.0 Central Florida
2017 3 Lano Hill 95 S 2020 0 0 0 5 42                           Michigan
2017 3 Nazair Jones 102 DT 2018 0 0 0 3 20                       1 2.0 North Carolina
2017 3 Amara Darboh 106 WR 2017 0 0 0 1 16                 8 71 0     Michigan
2017 4 Tedric Thompson 111 S 2020 0 0 2 8 37                       3   Colorado
2017 6 Michael Tyson 187 S 2018 0 0 0 1 10                           Cincinnati
2017 6 Justin Senior 210 T   0 0 0                               Mississippi St.
2017 7 David Moore 226 WR 2020 0 0 1 11 47           12 91 0 78 1163 13     East Central (OK)
2017 7 Chris Carson 249 RB 2020 0 0 3 28 45           715 3270 21 101 775 7     Oklahoma St.
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2016 1 Germain Ifedi 31 G 2020 0 0 4 34 76                           Texas A&M
2016 2 Jarran Reed 49 DT 2020 0 0 4 29 72                         22.0 Alabama
2016 3 C.J. Prosise 90 RB 2020 0 0 0 5 35           75 283 2 41 411 1     Notre Dame
2016 3 Nick Vannett 94 TE 2020 0 0 2 6 70                 75 686 5     Ohio St.
2016 3 Rees Odhiambo 97 G 2018 0 0 0 4 16                           Boise St.
2016 5 Quinton Jefferson 147 DT 2020 0 0 2 15 55                         10.5 Maryland
2016 5 Alex Collins 171 RB 2020 0 0 2 15 39           375 1586 16 50 380 1     Arkansas
2016 6 Joey Hunt 215 C 2020 0 0 0 7 35                           TCU
2016 7 Kenny Lawler 243 WR   0 0 0                               California
2016 7 Zac Brooks 247 RB   0 0 0                               Clemson
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2015 2 Frank Clark 63 DE 2020 0 2 4 38 91                       2 49.0 Michigan
2015 3 Tyler Lockett 69 WR 2020 1 1 6 45 95           38 256 1 376 4892 37     Kansas St.
2015 4 Terry Poole 130 G   0 0 0                               San Diego St.
2015 4 Mark Glowinski 134 G 2020 0 0 4 26 79                           West Virginia
2015 5 Tye Smith 170 CB 2020 0 0 0 3 40                       1   Towson
2015 6 Obum Gwacham 209 DE 2017 0 0 0 1 15                         2.5 Oregon St.
2015 6 Kristjan Sokoli 214 DT 2015 0 0 0 0 1                           Buffalo
2015 7 Ryan Murphy 248 DB 2017 0 0 0 0 3  

Ummm I'm not sure those analytics are working correctly because as I look at this list, I am thoroughly unimpressed. Metcalf and who? RB in late 1st with under 1000 yards in 2 year? This list makes Carrol and Wilson look great because they have overcome this list and still made it into the playoffs, not the guy we just hired who was the lead college evaluator in these years. 

Under Draft Return:

"This is necessary, because not very much CarAV has been generated by players from the last couple of years yet, and we don't want to think that drafts from years ago were better just because the players have been around longer."

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2 minutes ago, blueandblackattack said:

Under Draft Return:

"This is necessary, because not very much CarAV has been generated by players from the last couple of years yet, and we don't want to think that drafts from years ago were better just because the players have been around longer."

These are the years he was in charge of the college side of pro-personnel that he split, AKA relevant years where he was more than a scout.

 

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I don't really understand how they apply value to a draft pick... So if you draft a good corner like James Bradberry and he walks after his rookie deal...does that score well or not?

Greg Hardy is one of the best talent evaluation picks in Hurney's career. But he had a disastrous career, how is that scored?

Josh Norman had 2 great years with the Panthers but an average run with the Redskins. 

These are three good draft picks that never fully panned out for the Panthers. 

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