Devin White... Micah Parsons

[ericr0319]

18 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Please no. The Panthers have historically invested VERY heavily at MLB and we have an overall losing record to show for it. 

if you look at our 2 investments at MLB - those were the only 2 times we made it to the Super Bowl...

[The Huddler]

If we had a franchise QB I'd be all for it, but we need our guy first.

[ericr0319]

20 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

gees man. Im stating the obvious. Im NOT saying they wont get him, but any amount of reading will show that at #8 an off the line LB is not the BEST value. Chill dude. 

okay. so if we dont go QB at 8 and dont trade up or back. who is your preference? 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, ericr0319 said:

if you look at our 2 investments at MLB - those were the only 2 times we made it to the Super Bowl...

There's a LOT more than two investments we've made at MLB.

[ericr0319]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

There's a LOT more than two investments we've made at MLB.

in the first? besides Jon Beason who? I actually hate that move, but I was screaming for Luke for where we sat in that draft. 

Davis and Shaq were not MLB. 

[mbarbour21]

If we can’t get QB, then we should trade back. Pick up an extra pick and grab two good offensive lineman. 

[pantherj]

Our blueprint for building this team should be young LBs acquired later in the draft. If one of them starts to break down physically, then just dump him and pick up another one later in the draft. Shaq is massively talented, but all you hear on gameday is fans ripping him a new one. That's because LBs are no longer that effective against good modern defenses. Just like Luke (epic talent) looked like complete trash against teams like the Saints. He got roasted. We have to have a smart blueprint to rebuild this team. Build up a dominant passing attack. Period. No 1st round LBs.

[SOJA]

Parsons has some off the field stuff that sounded kinda bad, some view him more of a 3-4 OLB fwiw

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

in the first? besides Jon Beason who? I actually hate that move, but I was screaming for Luke for where we sat in that draft. 

Davis and Shaq were not MLB. 

You forgot about Dan Morgan this quickly? All of those guys also signed huge second contracts that limited our ability to spend elsewhere. I think that's what a lot of fans miss. For every move there is also an opportunity cost. That move cost you the opportunity to make other moves. Hindsight being 20/20 and all, each of those huge second contracts proved to be a mistake.

[pantherj]

The Saints and Bucs are the class of the NFCS, and we're not going to out compete them by collect top LBs.

If Rule isn't thinking "QB, weapons, o-line" then we're in deep trouble. If he starts spending picks on the defense yet again then we're going to get yeeted. If our identity is our defense then we know we're ever winning a SB. Not happening.

[ericr0319]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You forgot about Dan Morgan this quickly? All of those guys also signed huge second contracts that limited our ability to spend elsewhere. I think that's what a lot of fans miss. For every move there is also an opportunity cost. That move cost you the opportunity to make other moves. Hindsight being 20/20 and all, each of those huge second contracts proved to be a mistake.

no. Dan Morgan and Luke were who I was referring to as our investments. also, we are talking about the draft at number 8. has nothing to do with signing big contracts. 

[ericr0319]

8 minutes ago, mbarbour21 said:

If we can’t get QB, then we should trade back. Pick up an extra pick and grab two good offensive lineman. 

i agree - trade back and grab a 2nd. have 3 picks in the first 2 rounds and get a T, G, and then another player. honestly its a deep DT class and would love to cut ties with KK and draft another DT and build that o and d line. 

Brady will be on the Bucs for at least 2 more years after this. we are not winning a super bowl next year or year after. 

[ericr0319]

5 minutes ago, pantherj said:

The Saints and Bucs are the class of the NFCS, and we're not going to out compete them by collect top LBs.

If Rule isn't thinking "QB, weapons, o-line" then we're in deep trouble. If he starts spending picks on the defense yet again then we're going to get yeeted. If our identity is our defense then we know we're ever winning a SB. Not happening.

i think he had to go defense his first draft because the defense was just so damn bad. its not a STUD o-line class, but its viewed to be deep. especially at G. we could easily end up going all offense this draft if the chips fall. 

[pantherj]

If you look at the weapons the Bucs and Saints have, and their o-lines as well, then you can see how to build a modern football team. Either one of those teams have what it takes to win the SB, but Brees is a little too old, and they ran into each other in the playoffs. Those are smartly built teams with a focus on QB, o-line, and weapons first and foremost, and you see the results. Same thing with KC. It's not rocket science. Are we going to be a Ron 2.0 team with a ton of expensive defensive players having the ball tossed over their heads for TDs? I hope not!