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Carolina Panthers to be 'aggressive' in pursuit of potential Deshaun Watson trade


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Don't be afraid of greatness. We can piddle around with 1st round picks and constantly say "next year" or we can go get the man.

If we opt for the draft we're still giving up draft picks (at least a future first) to move up and scrap with other teams for the 2nd-3rd best QB on the board. So, it's not like we're giving up nothing if we don't go the Watson route. The future will be mortgaged to some extent for a franchise QB unless you wanna try and fully tank for a whole year, which will not happen. And you get what you pay for. Might as well get this right and get a guy like Watson than try to cheap out and end up with a Wilson experiment for the next four years and limited picks.

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6 minutes ago, Ship said:

Don't be afraid of greatness. We can piddle around with 1st round picks and constantly say "next year" or we can go get the man.

If we opt for the draft we're still giving up draft picks (at least a future first) to move up and scrap with other teams for the 2nd-3rd best QB on the board. So, it's not like we're giving up nothing if we don't go the Watson route. The future will be mortgaged to some extent for a franchise QB unless you wanna try and fully tank for a whole year, which will not happen. And you get what you pay for. Might as well get this right and get a guy like Watson than try to cheap out and end up with a Wilson experiment for the next four years and limited picks.

I'm sure Houston is loving giving away #3 and a shot at a QB or Sewell for the privilege of 4-12 and paying a fairly middle of the road LT a mega deal.

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10 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Yeah, that's not much. We'll have to give up more for Watson. 

I'm okay with 3 first. Even okay with 3 first and a decent piece. 

If the state of our offensive line was better I might agree, A Watson trade all but guarantees we will need two OTs have very little cap space and still be missing several key postions on defense, *assuming Paradis isn't cut* even if we could pull it off it will be four years to climb to 9-7 Watson isn't a magic cure all pill like phillybs viagra. He was FANTASTIC this season and won the same amount of games as TB.

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Just now, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

If the state of our offensive line was better I might agree, A Watson trade all but guarantees we will need two OTs have very little cap space and still be missing several key postions on defense, *assuming Paradis isn't cut* even if we could pull it off it will be four years to climb to 9-7 Watson isn't a magic cure all pill like phillybs viagra. He was FANTASTIC this season and won the same amount of games as TB.

Offensive line will get better. I think if we trade for Watson. They go balls to the wall in FA for more pieces on the line, and through the draft. 

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2 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

If the state of our offensive line was better I might agree, A Watson trade all but guarantees we will need two OTs have very little cap space and still be missing several key postions on defense, *assuming Paradis isn't cut* even if we could pull it off it will be four years to climb to 9-7 Watson isn't a magic cure all pill like phillybs viagra. He was FANTASTIC this season and won the same amount of games as TB.

Difference there is coaching. 

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8 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Vernon Butler..................which by the way could've been traded for Joe Thomas because the Browns were offering him for that. But dip poo Gettle tits said nope. 

Vernon Butler is a late round pick who is a starter for a AFCG team, He had 7.5 sacks his last season here and was foolishly not tendered, Hardly a bust for the 30th pick of the draft....  Also Joe Thomas retired 7 months late HARDLY worth a first rounder.

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