Totally missed this on ESPN’s IG

[TheCasillas]

Interesting idea, but I just don’t see how we could afford it.  Any cap wizards here who thinks this would even be remotely possible?

 

also, thoughts on Dak if he doesn’t get bright back by Dallas? They’ve been rumored to be considering moving on or taggin n’ trading Dak.

 

 

Edited February 10, 2021 by TheCasillas

[Basbear]

I feel like fitterereer is in 15 QB deals, to drive down the market on the 2 he/they truthfully want. Dak could be signed, be some loooong years like = 8 years 280 million type of deal. Panthers have about 80 million (space) come 2022, so any deals signed this year must be low first year types. Its possible, but you could not tag or sign Moton as part of this signing. 

They could make it happen, just .00004% chance dallas doesnt tag, 20 other team dont match/pass panthers, and dak wants to be a panther. 

[BurnNChinn]

Probably wouldn’t cost as much as giving up as up everything for Watson. Yeah I posted it in another thread, I would love to get him. He would have been in running for MVP if he had not gotten hurt. His numbers were crazy good he was putting ridiculous numbers, their defense as always was costing them games. Also instead of Zeke feeding himself he was feeding the other team with all his fumbles. I would put getting him over Watson IMO.

[The Lobo]

Dallas will tag him again

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

I don’t know how we afford it either but signing a FA like Dak would be preferable IMHO to spending multiple firsts and other picks to get Watson or Wilson at #2.

If we go for an expensive QB, we need more cheap draft capital not less. I also am not as much of a fan of giving up the farm for anyone besides Lawrence.

If Dallas were to tag him, we could technically offer two firsts and match the contract right?

[BurnNChinn]

1 minute ago, The Lobo said:

Dallas will tag him again

They could tag and trade him for picks. I would still do it.

[The Lobo]

1 minute ago, BurnNChinn said:

They could tag and trade him for picks. I would still do it.

Dang I didn’t think of that. What is it, two firsts for a tag?

[BurnNChinn]

Just now, The Lobo said:

Dang I didn’t think of that. What is it, two firsts for a tag?

Yep. I would do it. I’m going all in Watson or Dak. I mean u going to give that up plus some for an unproven rookie. No way I’m doing that.

[The Lobo]

5 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Yep. I would do it. I’m going all in Watson or Dak. I mean u going to give that up plus some for an unproven rookie. No way I’m doing that.

I gotta agree, if we can’t get Watson, then Dak it is. If that doesn’t work...

[ForJimmy]

I was looking more at Trent Williams. Throw in a deal for Moton and Miller suddenly our offensive line is a strength and we have no cap space left....

[Panther Believer]

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I was looking more at Trent Williams. Throw in a deal for Moton and Miller suddenly our offensive line is a strength and we have no cap space left....

Trent Williams is also who I really want. Just like at what adding Jack Conklin did for that Browns OL. 1 piece can make a world of difference and Williams could mentor the lineman we get in the 1st 3 rounds to be his successor. Win - Win

[Eazy-E]

Only way I'd be ok with the team trading draft capital is for a proven, top tier QB. 

Watson > Dak > hope Wilson/Fields/Lance are there at 8. If none of those options work take the best LT available and try again next year. 

I'd still take a flier on a mid round QB in this draft and hope Fitterer finds the next Russell Wilson.

[Panther Believer]

2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Only way I'd be ok with the team trading draft capital is for a proven, top tier QB. 

Watson > Dak > hope Wilson/Fields/Lance are there at 8. If none of those options work take the best LT available and try again next year. 

I'd still take a flier on a mid round QB in this draft and hope Fitterer finds the next Russell Wilson.

Kellen Mond has entered the chat...

[Basbear]

15 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It would be easy to get to about $50M in cap space, we could easily franchise Moton and sign Dak. We just need to be vigilant to dump the dead weight. It still pisses me off that we wasted so much cap on going for it in 2020. We could have given Moton $20M a year and Dak $40M a year and not batted an eye based on the over $80M we wasted. That would have been an extra $16M a year for the next 5 years to throw around and overpay. Instead we barely rolled over any cap space.

We disagree about the easy part. Ive done the sportac& over the cap thing a few times, about the highest I get is 40-38 million. Thats with KK, weath, Parlay, Paradis all getting cut. Simple we'll math use 40. Rookie pool needs are 10(rough), tag for moton is 13, and you need to carry 8-10 into the season. That leaves 7 million for around 10 spots, some are starting spots.

Check it out and see what you can come up with, just be real about numbers, contracts etc. Its not 100% correct either, but gives you a good idea. 

https://overthecap.com/calculator/carolina-panthers/