La Canfora on Tepper's desire for Watson/franchise QB

[SizzleBuzz]

21 minutes ago, top dawg said:

$24 mil is not poor by the longest of longshots.

By NFL QB standards it is...

Matt Stafford has already banked $226,478,969 and in the next 2 years will bank another $43,000,000 which is more than Deshaun has made in his entire career.

[SizzleBuzz]

20 minutes ago, top dawg said:

The Steelers ultimately let him walk without tagging him, evrn though they had the option of doing so.

You said it always got sorted in a year or less...another false statement.

Both are (were) high profile NFL players -- apples-to-apples.

Comparing the NBA to the NFL not so much...

Edited February 17, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[Soul Rebel]

12 minutes ago, MVPccaffrey said:

Cool maybe you can watch DeShaun highlights and understand a top 5 QB like him, at age 25, is worth ten Brian Burns

If we had 10 Brian Burns' on D, we wouldn't need DW.....Our defense might outscore the offense.

[CRA]

22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is also not including any money he has made in endorsements or other typical athlete revenue streams. Yes, they may be minimal in comparison to what his annual salary would be but he could still easily net substantial amounts of endorsement or appearance money while he is sitting out. More than enough so that he would likely never have to touch what he has already made. 

Nike, Beats, Verizon, Miller, DraftKings, Samsung, and on and on.   

Cam Newton was pulling like 10 million a year in endorsements when he was hot.  

[SizzleBuzz]

22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is also not including any money he has made in endorsements or other typical athlete revenue streams. Yes, they may be minimal in comparison to what his annual salary would be but he could still easily net substantial amounts of endorsement or appearance money while he is sitting out. More than enough so that he would likely never have to touch what he has already made. 

There's $146,540,000 there for the taking...

...he's not going to decline it on principle because his feeling are hurt.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, MVPccaffrey said:

The best Sportsbook handicappers in the world don't think a single pass rusher, outside of maybe LT historically, moves a point spread more than 0.5 at most given their presence.  QBs like Watson can move a spread by more than a touchdown.  Yes he's worth ten Brian Burns by the people who know value the most

And the best GM's and coaches in the NFL do understand that a single pass rusher can make a huge impact in every game. 

The fact that you are using sportsbooks as a reference for positional value really shows how little you understand about actual football. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

There's $146,540,000 there for the taking...

...he's not going to decline it on principle because his feeling are hurt.

It's funny that you believe only NFL owners can act on principle, whereas players of a certain "sort" only see green.

Says a lot about your worldview. 

[CRA]

Just now, SizzleBuzz said:

There's $146,540,000 there for the taking...

...he's not going to decline it on principle because his feeling are hurt.

his new deal only had 110 guaranteed I think and already has a chunk.  That much money isn't actually out there I don't think.   I would need to look it all up. 

Andrew Luck walked away from like 60 mill in cash sitting out there. 

 

[Mr. Scot]

16 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

If we had 10 Brian Burns' on D, we wouldn't need DW.....Our defense might outscore the offense.

Is the 11th player Jeremy Chinn?

[AU-panther]

32 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but we are all making hypothetical offers anyway. We have no idea what the ACTUAL price is nor what each team is even prepared to offer. 

What other teams offer at some point becomes irrelevant. We had the opportunity to snag Matt Stafford but LA outbid us. At a certain point, your price is just your price. I would rather miss out on this deal entirely than make some completely insane offer that puts us in Houston Texans territory. 

I get it. You have to have your number you won’t go past.  I’m just saying I don’t think they would take your number.

I personally don’t think I would offer much more myself.

 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

I get it. You have to have your number you won’t go past.  I’m just saying I don’t think they would take your number.

I personally don’t think I would offer much more myself.

 

Yeah and what we offered for Matt Stafford was a very, very fair deal, IMO. So, I do have some faith that we aren't going to lose our minds and spend an absurd amount to get Watson. 

All of that is likely fan/media overreaction. It may be a crazy market but that doesn't mean we as a franchise have to do crazy stuff. 

[joemac]

Have any other teams out there been linked as hot and heavy to Watson as we have? I admittedly look at it with a biased Panthers eye, but seems to me is, the Jets and Dolphins are the 3 horses leading the race and everyone else is way back in the distance. And it seems that most of the Miami/NY talk is just because there is a perceived need and they have all those extra draft picks. But is there really a QB need with these teams? Tua showed a lot of potential in his play this year, and Darnold is not a bad QB, just on a bad, bad team thus far. Plus they are both still really cheap.

[kungfoodude]

16 minutes ago, CRA said:

his new deal only had 110 guaranteed I think and already has a chunk.  That much money isn't actually out there I don't think.   I would need to look it all up. 

Andrew Luck walked away from like 60 mill in cash sitting out there. 

 

He has the $30 mil signing bonus but they will eventually be able to get all that back if he really did sit out his entire contract. 

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Is the 11th player Jeremy Chinn?

No, in the 10 Burns scenario, Chinn is our QB. 

[Panther'sBigD]

If Tepper actually said any of this to anyone, it was purposely telegraphed in the spirit of, "Blue Horseshoe loves Anacott Steel."