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Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson

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It depends on the trade. The big question is can we still build up the team around Watson with no first rounders for the next 2 years. I think we could. I consider 1 of those firsts would be like we drafted Watson this year. When you start throwing in our young defensive players like Burns, Chinn and Brown I could only do one. And I’d want it to be Chinn. If it’s two of them, nope. If they start saying 3 1sts and 2 2nds but no other young defensive players I’d be listening. It’s a balance. Can’t mortgage too much where there is zero hope of building the team up over the next several season. I’m ok with giving up 3 1sts. 
 

there are tons of different scenarios here.

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He didn't establish him being "untradeable" he just alluded to what many people already knew, which was trading him entails a large chunk of dead cap this offseason. In the deal King proposed(which is actually fairly ridiculous, IMO) we would actually end up with more cap space free, not less.

Oh, I'd definitely say Voth established "untradable".

Either way though, agree about King's suggested deal. That'd be jaw dropping.

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2 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

It depends on the trade. The big question is can we still build up the team around Watson with no first rounders for the next 2 years. I think we could. I consider 1 of those firsts would be like we drafted Watson this year. When you start throwing in our young defensive players like Burns, Chinn and Brown I could only do one. And I’d want it to be Chinn. If it’s two of them, nope. If they start saying 3 1sts and 2 2nds but no other young defensive players I’d be listening. It’s a balance. Can’t mortgage too much where there is zero hope of building the team up over the next several season. I’m ok with giving up 3 1sts. 
 

there are tons of different scenarios here.

Honestly, giving up 1st rounders concerns me a lot less than giving up guys like Burns, Brown, and/or Chinn who have shown to be very promising young players still on cheap rookie contracts.

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Oh, I'd definitely say Both established"untradable".

Either way though, agree about King's suggested deal. That'd be jaw dropping.

He's tradeable in any Watson scenario. Hell, someone offer up two first round draft picks, I'd trade him for that. 

In most other scenarios the greater harm is to us. I also can't fathom King's choice of players. It seems so heavily weighted in our favor that it doesn't seem logical.

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Honestly, giving up 1st rounders concerns me a lot less than giving up guys like Burns, Brown, and/or Chinn who have shown to be very promising young players still on cheap rookie contracts.

Exactly. The biggest thing to me is keeping second rounders and 2 of the 3 young defensive starters. Burns is the most important, then Brown then Chinn. I know Chinn is a baller but it’s just positional value. We need to keep those 2nd rounders though if we give away a young defensive player. 
 

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He's tradeable in any Watson scenario. Hell, someone offer up two first round draft picks, I'd trade him for that. 

In most other scenarios the greater harm is to us. I also can't fathom King's choice of players. It seems so heavily weighted in our favor that it doesn't seem logical.

Pushing a deal that involves all offensive players when it's been reported that the Texans are looking for defense doesn't make much sense either.

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The biggest knock on any trade package we can offer is that it doesn't include an answer at QB. They shouldn't want Teddy and one reason why we're likely so desperate to trade for Watson is that #8 looks to likely be on the outside looking in on the top QB prospects in this year's draft. The Jets and Dolphins not only have young QBs with potential upside to offer, they also have a pick that is guaranteed to be able to secure one of the top QB prospects in this year's draft if that's the direction the Texans want to go.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The biggest knock on any trade package we can offer is that it doesn't include an answer at QB. They shouldn't want Teddy and one reason why we're likely so desperate to trade for Watson is that #8 looks to likely be on the outside looking in on the top QB prospects in this year's draft. The Jets and Dolphins not only have young QBs with potential upside to offer, they also have a pick that is guaranteed to be able to secure one of the top QB prospects in this year's draft if that's the direction the Texans want to go.

Yep.

We may be in the poker game but we're working with a pair of threes.

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