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1st & 2nd Rd Draft Picks (2017-Present) - Pretty Cool

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Something I've looked past is that we have not had many busts high up in recent years.  Not many teams can say this so think it's cool to consider:

 

1st Rounders:

2017: CMC - 2nd RB taken (Outperformed RB1 in Fournette)

2018: DJ Moore - The 1st WR taken in the entire draft

2019: Brian Burns - the 3rd DE taken in the draft (Outperformed Ferrell, closer on-par with Chase Young)

2020: Derrick Brown - the 1st DT taken in the entire draft 

2021: Jaycee Horn - the 1st defensive player taken in the entire draft

 

2nd Rounders:

2017(1): Curtis Samuel - Played quite well, should get 3rd round comp on him if he pans out for the (Redwolves?)

2017(2): Taylor Moton - top OT in the league, just locked up long term.  Our man on the line

2018: Donte Jackson - Hiccups at times but still here, still making plays.  I've grown to not mind him.  

2019: 2022 Miami 7th Rounder (miss)

2020(1): Yetur Gross-Matos - Mocked up to the teens, showed really great flashes, going into a big sophomore season.  I love him for the future.

2020(2): Jeremy Chinn - MONSTER.  2nd in DROY voting, absolute bonafide STUD 

2021: Terrace Marshall Jr. - It's hard not to like him and think big things are coming.  He's passing the eye test and then some

 

That's 1 OL, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 2 DEs, 1 DT, 2 CBs, & 1 Chinn all who are/or have all worked out so far.  That right there is 10 starters in 4 years with really just 1 miss (Samuel will net us comp).  Guys in every phase of the game helping us out (minus QB).  Gettleman set us back with such an awful 2016 draft but we've built a pretty good squad (in spite of Hurney's other picks throughout)

That is how you build a team and now I feel we're in even more trusted hands in Fitterer to land guys all over the draft and FA.  We're closer than you think, a lot of teams don't have a 2-round resume like this.  Comes to show that if we can quickly figure out a QB and fortify the line just a wee bit more, we're really close to being a legit threat.  Just my 2 cents. 

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not trying to be snarky but how do we chock up 2021 picks to being successes when they have never played a down in the NFL?

I kind of feel similar about the 2020 draft picks. It's hard to judge any player that early in their career, good or bad.

They are starters and it hasnt even been close. I think thats a good rule of thumb.

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

I am not trying to be snarky but how do we chock up 2021 picks to being successes when they have never played a down in the NFL?

I kind of feel similar about the 2020 draft picks. It's hard to judge any player that early in their career, good or bad.

I'm not saying they're smash hits but if they pan out, that is a hell of a good track record.  That many consistent high-end successful picks bodes well for a quick build situation.  Which we may be looking at if Darnold doesn't pan out.  I just don't think we're that far off and a lot of fanbases would kill for what we've been able to haul.

I am willing to be a bit early to judge Marshall, bc I just think he's a stud, easy transitioning potential star.  He could be huge in the league.    

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1 minute ago, davos said:

I'm not saying they're smash hits but if they pan out, that is a hell of a good track record.  That many consistent high-end successful picks bodes well for a quick build situation.  Which we may be looking at if Darnold doesn't pan out.  I just don't think we're that far off and a lot of fanbases would kill for what we've been able to haul.

I am willing to be a bit early to judge Marshall, bc I just think he's a stud, easy transitioning potential star.  He could be huge in the league.    

Yeah. We have had a lot of picks in the upper portion of the rounds, which helps a lot. Our biggest issue is whiffing in rounds 3-7. That has been what kills us traditionally. 

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Gettleman shat the bed with the 2016 draft, but he might have made up for it with the 2017 draft. His only pick from then that didn't pan out was Daeshon Hall.

Obligatory imagine if Hurney didn't move on from Butker reminder.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah. We have had a lot of picks in the upper portion of the rounds, which helps a lot. Our biggest issue is whiffing in rounds 3-7. That has been what kills us traditionally. 

Yup, that's in part why I added the part about landing this in spite of DG and Hurney.  And if Fit turns out to have found guys in Tremble, Christensen, Hubbard, & min. 1 of these later rounders, it's going to help turn the corner in a huge way.

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4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

They are starters and it hasnt even been close. I think thats a good rule of thumb.

Well.....we aren't exactly brimming with talent, so that may not be saying a lot.

We have had our fair share of draft picks that started a lot of games in their rookie seasons and didn't exactly stick around the team or NFL long. 

Not trying to poo on these guys in any way, just saying we might want to slow our roll on crowning them as successful without ever having played a down of NFL football.

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Yup, that's in part why I added the part about landing this in spite of DG and Hurney.  And if Fit turns out to have found guys in Tremble, Christensen, Hubbard, & min. 1 of these later rounders, it's going to help turn the corner in a huge way.

Agreed. Landing multiple guys each draft that can contribute in some way during their rookie contracts can be a big aid to long term success. That cheap depth and talent is critical.

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