Deshaun Watson trade now as unlikely as ever...

[top dawg]

4 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

People still holding on to this pipe dream....lol

 

Not that it even is a pipe dream, but let Darnold suck, the Panthers get shut out on Rattler, probably Ridder, Howell or whoever else, and Watson get off with at most a slap on the wrist of 6 games or so...then tell us all how much of a "pipe dream" it is. 

And, no, A-Rod and no other QB worth a damn will be a real option.

[SmittysLawnGuy]

Just to break the monotony, I could probably use some crack ointment.

[SizzleBuzz]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's not as simple as "hey, this guy is good so go get him."

Sure it is...

...if Tepper says so.  

[Khyber53]

22 hours ago, top dawg said:

As @LinvilleGorge so painfully pointed out to me in another thread, Winston and Darnold have been the same type of QB on many levels.

So, if you think Winston is going to flame out quickly, do you think Darnold is going to flame out just as quickly? And if not, why not? There are arguments to be made as to why both could flame out (or not), and there are arguments to be made that either franchise could eventually be in play for Watson. Of course with all the reports, and an owner that's apparently hellbent on getting a franchise QB (and would be even more so if Rhule's second project fails), I'd argue that we'd be one of the top players, if not the top player in a Watson sweepstakes.

Probably the biggest reason I think Winston will flame out is because, well, he's Jameis Winston. I've never been a fan of his and he's always played for one of our division rivals. It really comes down to Darnold is our guy and Winston is always the opposing guy, therefore I'm pulling for Darnold and booing Winston. It's homerism, but hey, there it is.

And Watson, don't get me started. Let's just let that go away.

[cookinbrak]

13 hours ago, top dawg said:

Not that it even is a pipe dream, but let Darnold suck, the Panthers get shut out on Rattler, probably Ridder, Howell or whoever else, and Watson get off with at most a slap on the wrist of 6 games or so...then tell us all how much of a "pipe dream" it is. 

And, no, A-Rod and no other QB worth a damn will be a real option.

So we finish with a record that we can't get Rattler at our pick. So we trade multiple pick to get Watson, rather than trade some picks to move up for Rattler?

[top dawg]

47 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

So we finish with a record that we can't get Rattler at our pick. So we trade multiple pick to get Watson, rather than trade some picks to move up for Rattler?

I'd be happy to get Rattler (or Ridder), but you just can't assume that the FO will decide that it's best to decide to lay out draft capital on an unprovem product as opposed to a proven product. The FO may do that, but it's hardly a guarantee. Personal and legal issues aside, Watson is an established top 6 NFL QB at worst. Most would say he's certainly top 5 and many have him higher, particularly because he displayed the juice on a thoroughly sucky squad where he was the only thing that shined. As good as we think Rattler is, the NFL is a different animal where it takes time to learn, adjust and develop, and the worst of it is that some never make the leap. Watson is about the surest of young QBs you'll ever get the opportunity to acquire. 

All that being said, the calculations and decisions are up to the FO. I won't lose sleep over whatever decision we would make if it comes to that (as long as it's not another middling to bottom-barrell retread).

Edited September 6, 2021 by top dawg

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