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Panthers willing to trade CMC??

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4 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Cmc isn’t built like Henry. Also cmc probably juices

Why do you think CMC juices ? He was 185 coming out of high school then he was 202 out of college and maybe 208 now , I think he’s just put to much emphasis on his quads and power .

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41 minutes ago, TDGone said:

My point wasn’t that you build around the RB just we would still need to find better than what we would have on the roster.Just like you said we need a good OL which we don’t have at the moment nor have we invested in since CMC got here.They built this team around defense not the RB they just thought the rb could make up for a lot of their shortcomings on offense which he did when healthy but like you said when he goes out we’re dead in the water.

But that wouldn’t be hard to go into a season and not want your rookie RB you are developing be your featured RB.   You Named a bunch of teams that easily put backfields together that get the job done.   Bucs, Rams, etc, 

I don’t know what Rhule’s goal is he is building toward on O.  Presently we are built around a RB.  

 

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13 minutes ago, TDGone said:

True the Titans are all in on Henry but he did have a lot of touches  in college and also High School 

That's valid. I took a look at their college numbers and though their rushing attempts are close McCaffrey still outpaced him by a large margin due to his receiving touches. He had 112 more touches and his yards from scrimmage were 5128 compared to 3876 for Henry. CMC actually had more receiving touchdowns than he did rushing. No doubt he was a versatile weapon which is why he went 8th. But where the Panthers sit today is they have to shift how they use him or what you see now is what you get. You also can't deny that most teams in the league have formidable offenses without making huge investments in the backfield or building around that position.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Mike Florio at PFT is VERY bearish on Watson to Carolina. Specifically saying that Watson wants to go to Miami and only Miami. He also basically laughs at CMC being a tradeable asset at the moment.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/30/report-david-tepper-would-include-christian-mccaffrey-in-deshaun-watson-package/

Well that settles it now we can all move forward 

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ProFootballTalk's Mike Florio reports the Panthers "have no plans" to pursue Deshaun Watson before Tuesday's trade deadline.

The Panthers "never considered offering" Christian McCaffrey as part of a trade package, per Florio, who casts doubt on the sides making a deal this season. This conflicts with a report that Panthers owner David Tepper hasn't given up on trading for Watson. The Dolphins continue to look like the favorites for Watson, though there's a lot of moving parts here. Watson will sit out the rest of 2021 in Houston if he doesn't get traded before Tuesday's deadline. 

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15 minutes ago, TDGone said:

Why do you think CMC juices ? He was 185 coming out of high school then he was 202 out of college and maybe 208 now , I think he’s just put to much emphasis on his quads and power .

He had a big jump in noticeable muscle mass from years 1&2 to 3. Like everyone was talking about it lol. More than a traditional nfl workout regimen. His brother got busted twice and suspended twice in the nfl for performance enhancing drugs. He keeps getting these injuries. My guess is he’s juicing in the off-season then going off them to avoid drug tests. I played college ball and knew guys who juiced and it kind of fits. Just a guess though. 

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17 minutes ago, CRA said:

But that wouldn’t be hard to go into a season and not want your rookie RB you are developing be your featured RB.   You Named a bunch of teams that easily put backfields together that get the job done.   Bucs, Rams, etc, 

I don’t know what Rhule’s goal is he is building toward on O.  Presently we are built around a RB.  

 

We’re built around the defense and that’s why we draft more on that side of the ball since CMC got here. It would be more accurate to say the RB is our best offense player but tell me how did we build around the rb when we have not given him a o line to play with? Once again I’m not saying build the team around a rb you should build around the able but when we drafted cmc we thought we had the qb in place with Cam so I dont think we were trying to build around the rb

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51 minutes ago, TDGone said:

Why do you think CMC juices ? He was 185 coming out of high school then he was 202 out of college and maybe 208 now , I think he’s just put to much emphasis on his quads and power .

I think most of these dudes probably hit a cycle in the off season, either that or they’re on the cutting edge of drugs/chemistry with the type of cash they’ve got so they get stuff that’s undetectable. 

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38 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

He had a big jump in noticeable muscle mass from years 1&2 to 3. Like everyone was talking about it lol. More than a traditional nfl workout regimen. His brother got busted twice and suspended twice in the nfl for performance enhancing drugs. He keeps getting these injuries. My guess is he’s juicing in the off-season then going off them to avoid drug tests. I played college ball and knew guys who juiced and it kind of fits. Just a guess though. 

I hear you ,  from the information I gather beside Qb and kickers probably over half today NFL players are juicing 

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2 hours ago, TDGone said:

We’re built around the defense and that’s why we draft more on that side of the ball since CMC got here. It would be more accurate to say the RB is our best offense player but tell me how did we build around the rb when we have not given him a o line to play with? Once again I’m not saying build the team around a rb you should build around the able but when we drafted cmc we thought we had the qb in place with Cam so I dont think we were trying to build around the rb

Well we have the highest paid RB in the NFL.  Are adding JAGs and bust at QB and investing the D.  I call that being built around a RB.  

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6 hours ago, CRA said:

Well we have the highest paid RB in the NFL.  Are adding JAGs and bust at QB and investing the D.  I call that being built around a RB.  

Well we have 55 percent of our cap space invested in the Defense side of the ball which is what you call being built around the defense.CMC is the 5th highest cap for a RB in 2021 Henry 13,500,000 Barkley 10,025,692 Gordon 8,941,176 Mixon 8,126,471 CMC 6,899,500 Elliott 6,820,000 Ekeler 5,750,000 Cook 5, 113,026 Kamara 5,000,000 Hunt 4,870,588 Chubb 4, 782,381 Jones 4, 464,705  The top teams still spend on the RB and that’s the number 1 seed in the AFC Bengals and 1 seed in the NFC Packers . So CMC cap hit is not the reason we are losing you might look at we have like 25 percent of our cap in dead money.

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