Next Steps (as considered from my toilet)

[jayboogieman]

54 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we think there's a potential franchise QB on the board, FUGING DRAFT HIM. When you need a QB you don't have the luxury of picking and choosing the absolute perfect timing. When the opportunity presents itself you have to jump. When you're sitting through everyone else's trash can to try to find the answer at the most important position in the game, that's exactly what you're likely to find - trash.

 

For some reason I picture you being like the guy in this scene at the prospect of Howell being a Panther.

 

[MHS831]

You had me at "Toilet"  Nice work. 

[MHS831]

Can I be the first to remind everyone that Fitterer signed Cam Erving and Pat Elflein to multi-year contracts on the first day of free agency? 

What the hell was that?

[rayzor]

7 hours ago, mav1234 said:

When you say ride the horse out - keep starting Darnold?  I was on that train until today - I just don't get how you can keep him starting the way he has played most of the time over the last month+...

yep. i mean you can try walker out but you won''t find it's any better at all. you roll with darnold because of the investment made in him and let it be a lesson to him and everyone else involved in the decision to bring him in without taking the OL seriously or trying to get clever without the knowledge and experience needed to do something clever.

darnold needs to find out if he's got what it takes to be a starter in this league that can handle adversity (which he won't). and you let that lesson that this whole thing was a bad idea be driven into the ground all season so they don't have a chance to forget or make excuses. 

we'll suffer, but we were going to anyways. 

[rayzor]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Can I be the first to remind everyone that Fitterer signed Cam Erving and Pat Elflein to multi-year contracts on the first day of free agency? 

What the hell was that?

was that him or rhule or a team effort?

[MHS831]

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

was that him or rhule or a team effort?

Good question.  We all were stunned by the moves, I recall.

[45catfan]

10 minutes ago, rayzor said:

yep. i mean you can try walker out but you won''t find it's any better at all. you roll with darnold because of the investment made in him and let it be a lesson to him and everyone else involved in the decision to bring him in without taking the OL seriously or trying to get clever without the knowledge and experience needed to do something clever.

darnold needs to find out if he's got what it takes to be a starter in this league that can handle adversity (which he won't). and you let that lesson that this whole thing was a bad idea be driven into the ground all season so they don't have a chance to forget or make excuses. 

we'll suffer, but we were going to anyways. 

It's like a serial killer giving you the choice of drowning, stabbing or strangulation.  Sure there are choices, but is there really a good one?  The staff can go with PJ, shuffle the OL around yet again, tell Joe Brady to call a some more run plays, but is outcome really going to be any different?

[d-dave]

Thinking more immediately, we need to go back to what was our success in the first three games - quick passing game.  Spread guys out.  One of the problems we've had with packing it in for running plays is that it gave defenders a shorter route to the ball.

Rhule can say he wants to be a pound the rock team, but that's not going to happen.  If you look back at those first three games, there was more shotgun, spread, and passes that were ready when Sam dropped back.  We were also more willing to throw into that 2nd level.  This team was made to run this Joe Brady version of the Saints offense.  We don't have the big bodies to pound people into submission.

I have no idea what the future holds, but going back to what they actually spent TC doing probably won't be worse than what we're seeing now.

[45catfan]

The most pressing question:  Did you wash your hands before picking your phone back up? 

[Waldo]

If we are keeping Rhule and Fitts after this offsrason then Tepper needs to hire someone over them both. This staff is so inexperienced another year without making a big move like that just doesn't look like enough to get them up to speed.

Go get an old hand and put him in charge, there isn't anyone employed by the team currently with enough meaningful experience to dig them out of the hole the have created.

[rayzor]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

The most pressing question:  Did you wash your hands before picking your phone back up? 

"yes"

[Fox007]

Yea basically some of these trades/QB decisions set us back to at least year 4 of the rebuild whereas the defense had us where it could have been this year or next.

Now its 2 at least.

[rippadonn]

3 hours ago, Captain Morgan said:

at this point it doesn't look like there is a QB we should take in the draft this year, and the best 2 or 3 will probably be taken before our pick anyway.

I like the idea of getting Fitz or Tyrod.  So spend our draft and FA building the line and hope we can find a long term  QB in 2023.  Sucks but that's what happens when you don't have a QB.  They are hard to find.

Consistently overlooked by this coach. Marty wanted to try and get Justin Herbert. Coach said no. The last one was Justin Fields, although not perfect would have ignited and excited the fans with hope for the future. Nope.