everyone bitching about the offense and this coaching staff, remember...

[electro's horse]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

We've already fallen back to middle of the pack in points allowed. 

almost like a sinking offense pulls the defense down with it

no one except the most hot take poisoned of posters would say the defense isn't being killed by the offense, but hey man that's something you need to work through on your own

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, electro's horse said:

almost like a sinking offense pulls the defense down with it

no one except the most hot take poisoned of posters would say the defense isn't being killed by the offense, but hey man that's something you need to work through on your own

That wasn't the case against WFT. The offense didn't have anything to do with Tua looking like prime Drew Brees right out of the gate either. It's okay to admit the D sucked the last two games. They're still the strength of our team, it's just that being the strength of this team is like being the best team in the ACC this year. You still suck.

 

[RJK]

I’m getting iffy on D. Brown and YGM. Also Chinn is invisible at safety

[Fox007]

Just now, RJK said:

I’m getting iffy on D. Brown and YGM. Also Chinn is invisible at safety

Runner up rookie of the year and they move him when LBs not named Shaq suck diq

I think that goes into complaining about the coaches tho

[RJK]

Just now, Fox007 said:

Runner up rookie of the year and they move him when LBs not named Shaq suck diq

I think that goes into complaining about the coaches tho

Yep, they’ve taken a difference maker on defense and turned him into the invisible man. Great scheme boys 

[onmyown]

11 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

well its a good thing the coaching staff was blessed by the defense talent fairy and they didnt draft those players

but at what expense?

you go all defense in on draft, then take a top CB the next with a top pick, and then spend even more future resources on more defensive top FAs/CBS

sound great

except your oline is literally the worst in the league...and olines take years to build

past 20 years of SB contenders had two things most strongly in common defense and oline

there has to be a balance somewhere and they overkilled it

good luck finding 5-6 long term offensive oline starters in the next couple years with gutted draft picks

[BIGH2001]

It turns out that building 1/3 of a football team doesn't make you any good.  I don't want Rhule doing any more roster building for fug's sake.  We've wasted millions and three draft picks on QB this year. He's done enough damage.

Edited November 30, 2021 by BIGH2001

[Fox007]

1 minute ago, onmyown said:

but at what expense?

you go all defense in on draft, then take a top CB the next with a top pick, and then spend even more future resources on more defensive top FAs/CBS

sound great

except your oline is literally the worst in the league...and olines take years to build

past 20 years of SB contenders had two things most strongly in common defense and oline

there has to be a balance somewhere and they overkilled it

good luck finding 5-6 long term offensive oline starters in the next couple years with gutted draft picks

When you invest all that in the draft/FA you don't expect a middle of the road defense you expect a defense to dominate. Ravens/Bears teams with real elite defenses won games 10-3, 13-6, 3-0 and poo like that.

[Eazy-E]

11 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

well its a good thing the coaching staff was blessed by the defense talent fairy and they didnt draft those players

Idk if that was supposed to be sarcasm but it’s mostly true. They did make a few signings and trades for some solid talent. (Reddick, Gilmore, Bouye, etc)

Rhule spent and entire draft on defense and the only real stud to come from it was Jeremy Chinn. Horn was looking very promising but he went down early week 3. Derrick Brown is looking like he could move into bust territory based on draft position and the fact he’s being bench for what I’d assume are performance reasons.

They added talent to what we already had but when the going gets tough they haven’t been able to utilize them properly.

[electro's horse]

6 minutes ago, RJK said:

I’m getting iffy on D. Brown and YGM. Also Chinn is invisible at safety

brown is a bust

YGM is good but can't stay on the field

Chinn is part of probably the best secondary in the league. Not sure he is big enough to survive at LB. Don't hate moving him to DB. He's all over the field, just doesn't show up to the casual fan who doesn't know what he's watching

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Fox007 said:

When you invest all that in the draft/FA you don't expect a middle of the road defense you expect a defense to dominate. Ravens/Bears teams with real elite defenses won games 10-3, 13-6, 3-0 and poo like that.

okay so they're not literally the two best defense of the past 2 decades

damn

[electro's horse]

5 minutes ago, onmyown said:

but at what expense?

you go all defense in on draft, then take a top CB the next with a top pick, and then spend even more future resources on more defensive top FAs/CBS

sound great

except your oline is literally the worst in the league...and olines take years to build

the entire premise of this thread is that the coachign staff wanted to murder was able to build a stud defense through the draft and free agency

you're just like pointing out what im saying

[BIGH2001]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

okay so they're not literally the two best defense of the past 2 decades

damn

They aren't even top 3 in panthers defense in the past 2 decades.

[RJK]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

brown is a bust

YGM is good but can't stay on the field

Chinn is part of probably the best secondary in the league. Not sure he is big enough to survive at LB. Don't hate moving him to DB. He's all over the field, just doesn't show up to the casual fan who doesn't know what he's watching