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Maybe I was wrong about KENNY PICKETT after reading these evaluations.


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53 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I really don’t get the hate. I’d prefer a couple QBs to him, but I would be fine and excited if we drafted him. People are worrying about him fumbling with his hands, umm let’s not let our QB get blindside tackled enough for it to be an issue?? 

The hand thing is just the social media effect. I prefer Willis but if this five first round pick acquisition falls through roll the dice and be done with it.

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah Grier wasn’t  the prospect Pickett is. Pickett is accurate with enough arm strength to make all the throws and the speed to extend plays while throwing off the run. The only negative to Pickett is his hands are .5 inches smaller than Burrow’s and he doesn’t have a Rodgers arm. His arm is still plenty good enough for the NFL and he is a first round talent. I think top 10 is a bit of an overreach but QBs get over-drafted every year. Grier aired it out in the Big 12 like every QB that plays in that conference. He had some tools but seemed to lack pocket awareness and had trouble reading defenses on the next level. He also isn’t very mobile. 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/will-grier/32004752-4902-2415-512e-3cae73b00f0f

Very similar 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kenny-pickett/32005049-4377-7233-6101-772adaebe15c

Funny everything you typed in your breakdown was said about Will Grier and you act like they are different prospects..

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

I really don’t get the hate. I’d prefer a couple QBs to him, but I would be fine and excited if we drafted him. People are worrying about him fumbling with his hands, umm let’s not let our QB get blindside tackled enough for it to be an issue?? 

When Andy Dalton is the comparison and top 6 pick is what your using to get him.. 

The hate just flows freely..

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On 3/12/2022 at 12:10 AM, WOW!! said:

Could ppl stop being disingenuous when trying to prop up Kenny Pickett 1 × please??

Don't just post 1 season of numbers when he played 5.. 

When comparing him to other QBS compare more then 1 season..

Try to effectively show a progression from year 1 to year 5 not just showing Year 5 and based his whole college career on it...

A poster mentioned the Mannings. That goes back to what I said about who has the best agents come draft time.

If the Mannings are involved that explains every bit of the hype.

Take away that last year and you've got a less than 60% completion, 13TD a year guy four years in a row.

More guys played better for longer. Fhules Gold. I don't buy it.

 

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18 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/will-grier/32004752-4902-2415-512e-3cae73b00f0f

Very similar 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kenny-pickett/32005049-4377-7233-6101-772adaebe15c

Funny everything you typed in your breakdown was said about Will Grier and you act like they are different prospects..

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/will-grier/32004752-4902-2415-512e-3cae73b00f0f
 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kenny-pickett/32005049-4377-7233-6101-772adaebe15c
 

It’s a 84 (good starter) vs 73 (backup). That was where they are ranked. Backups get drafted in the 3rd/later, starters (especially QBs) go in the first. 

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9 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

A poster mentioned the Mannings. That goes back to what I said about who has the best agents come draft time.

If the Mannings are involved that explains every bit of the hype.

Take away that last year and you've got a less than 60% completion, 13TD a year guy four years in a row.

More guys played better for longer. Fhules Gold. I don't buy it.

 

Yeah WTF would the Manning’s know about QBs. How about he had a conference breaking year statistically passing Watson (the guy we want to trade our roster for) this past season while delivering a subpar Pitt team the ACC Championship? Maybe, just maybe that’s where the hype is coming from?

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23 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

When Andy Dalton is the comparison and top 6 pick is what your using to get him.. 

The hate just flows freely..

Kiper compared him to Derek Carr who IMO is very underrated. He is what attracted McDaniel to the Raiders. Pickett is faster than Carr, but Carr probably has a stronger arm.

https://withthefirstpick.com/2021/12/16/nfl-draft-expert-kenny-pickett/amp/
 

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2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/will-grier/32004752-4902-2415-512e-3cae73b00f0f
 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kenny-pickett/32005049-4377-7233-6101-772adaebe15c
 

It’s a 84 (good starter) vs 73 (backup). That was where they are ranked. Backups get drafted in the 3rd/later, starters (especially QBs) go in the first. 

It's still similar breakdowns..

Smart players,  above avg. Arms

Avg athletics reads defenses moves well in the pocket.. No elite talent..

Same Buzz words similar athletics similar talents (1 consistently had better numbers) but we're dam near talking about the same player..

The only reason Pickett is getting a hire score is the level of competition in the draft ..

Will Grier had Murray's, Allen and Jones in his draft..

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3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Kiper compared him to Derek Carr who IMO is very underrated. He is what attracted McDaniel to the Raiders. Pickett is faster than Carr, but Carr probably has a stronger arm.

https://withthefirstpick.com/2021/12/16/nfl-draft-expert-kenny-pickett/amp/
 

Great Derrk Carr was a 2nd round Pick.. If we can get him then the hate wouldn't be so prevalent... Nobody was drafting Derek Carr or Andy Dalton top 10 .. So why do it now??

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2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I really don’t get the hate. I’d prefer a couple QBs to him, but I would be fine and excited if we drafted him. People are worrying about him fumbling with his hands, umm let’s not let our QB get blindside tackled enough for it to be an issue?? 

I think the hate is from Pickett's connection to Rhule when he was recruited to Temple and the assumption he'd be our pick at #6 over much more talented, higher rated players.  

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19 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Great Derrk Carr was a 2nd round Pick.. If we can get him then the hate wouldn't be so prevalent... Nobody was drafting Derek Carr or Andy Dalton top 10 .. So why do it now??

Yeah he outplayed where he was drafted…. You know that’s possible right? Russ and Dak were 3rd, Brady was 6th, Brees was a 2nd. Come on man you are better than that. 

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18 minutes ago, BlitzMonster said:

I think the hate is from Pickett's connection to Rhule when he was recruited to Temple and the assumption he'd be our pick at #6 over much more talented, higher rated players.  

I get that 6 is high for him, but where is he rated 16th? Being a QB is going to get him over-drafted. I’m just saying he is a solid prospect and it won’t be that bad if we over-draft him. Many analysts have him as the top rated QB on this class and we are either going to overpay/trade away assets for another vet QB or draft one. Option B is safer and easier to overcome if he does struggle. 

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8 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah he outplayed where he was drafted…. You know that’s possible right? Russ and Dak were 3rd, Brady was 6th, Brees was a 2nd. Come on man you are better than that. 

Doesn't change  the risk factor was greatly diminished by where he was drafted..

That doesn't work when you draft that type of QB high..

And your idea of Out playing his draft status  is always being questioned if he is a franchise QB that can carry a team, no playoff success,  and being considered the least talented QB in that division...

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