NFL: Snyder could be in deep poo

[stratocatter]

You could be right. And I wasn’t there to know if he did or didn’t say whatever he is alleged to have said. Which is really my point. If I am gonna condemn a guy who did so much for the football fans in our area, and was a pretty good owner for a while before things kind of went wrong, if I am gonna condemn him I want to know the facts and make that decision myself. 

 

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, stratocatter said:

You could be right. And I wasn’t there to know if he did or didn’t say whatever he is alleged to have said. Which is really my point. If I am gonna condemn a guy who did so much for the football fans in our area, and was a pretty good owner for a while before things kind of went wrong, if I am gonna condemn him I want to know the facts and make that decision myself. 
 

Better owner than Tepper I'd agree with (at least so far).

"Pretty good" though? Can't sign on to that.

[Doc Holiday]

On 10/18/2022 at 11:36 AM, Mr. Scot said:

(guess Rivera gets another kill added to his total; that's two now)

I’m fuging dead bro!!! (Also drunk in Hawaii atm)

[mc52beast]

Really gotta feel sorry for Ron. Dude gets barbecued by Tepper and replaced by one of the worst coaches in NFL history and now has to deal with the Snyder fallout.

[stratocatter]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Better owner than Tepper I'd agree with (at least so far).

"Pretty good" though? Can't sign on to that.

What the hell do yo7 want from people? He brought a team to this NFL no man’s land split between teams 100s of miles apart in different directions. 
I had an impression you were old enough to remember all of that. I don’t  really sweat the NFL now, it is a distraction, but it was the best thing that happened in the Carolinas since they split into two states in my book. 

And the second year, we are where? Man I hated that I worked in Atlanta those first two years because the only games I could see were vs Atlanta and because we were in the NFCW a SF game or two. because SF was the poo then. 
 

There were many good times. Many. The team never had a stretch like the Entire Tepper Era has been. Granted the Cam contract year coming and his injuries hamstrung us as far as planning but damn, JR had noth8ng like this.bHe was a former player.

Take the generation gap out of it (which I understand is particularly hard for some people), and yep he meddled. Hurney was not that bad all by himself. Neither was any other GM. 90% of NFL owners meddle. It’s their toy and their right, but it makes it hard to judge a GM. 
All of that taken, the thing with the sons, deciding not to leave the team to them, is when things started declining but we had Cam in his good years for a lot of that. 
 

Still, add it up.
And in closing, I did not say the best, great, etc. I will stand on pretty good though. 
He was a guy that answered every fan letter, in cursive! Ask me how I know. Whatever else people say he was, he was this guy too. 

Was *I* ever frustrated with, and by him? What do you think? In case you guess wrong, hell yes. Cheap in a lot of ways. Stubborn. Old fashioned. Same stuff people say about most old folks ha ha.

But we are having this discussion as a direct result of his work. 
 

Tepper has a long way to go. I wish he would go a long way away. Oh well lol. 
And I am gonna put a preemptive statement just in case because ai know how people are: my Tepper opinions have zero to do with JR being forced to sell. I am not that obsessed. 
 

In summary: JR=pretty good most of his tenure, I would have preferred that whatever his crime was, was put out there for us to see, Tepper can’t carry his shoeshine kit as we used to say. So far. 
 

Maybe Tepper’s arc will take a different trajectory and will begin to ascend. We can only hope. 

 

[Mr. Scot]

11 minutes ago, stratocatter said:

What the hell do you want from people? 

Better than an overall 500 record, no back to back winning seasons, more losing seasons than winning ones, promotions being given for loyalty rather than good performance, damn near twenty seasons of Marty Hurney...I could go on.

[stratocatter]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Better than an overall 500 record, no back to back winning seasons, more losing seasons than winning ones, promotions being given for loyalty rather than good performance, damn near twenty seasons of Marty Hurney...I could go on.

That is the mark of a demanding perfectionist if you want me to be honest. Is that what you want to be? That’s who you are? 
This is why I would not discuss Rhule blah blah with you early in the year.  It wouldn’t be a discussion it would be a lecture, or a point scoring exercise. For what freaking purpose?

So you can feel good about yourself, that you were smart enough to find JR’s every fault? Like with Hurney (but not Gettleman) every damn thread his name came up People know what is true btw. 
They know what you have showed them. It is all there. Imma stop now. Just saying when the discussion veers a certain way, you might look to self scout.

 

 

 

 

[onmyown]

On 10/18/2022 at 3:36 PM, Mr. Scot said:

They dumped Jerry Richardson for less than what Snyder's been accused of, but even more damning to other owners is likely the report that he may have been withholding money.

FYI: No idea where Tepper stands on this, but then he hardly ever speaks anymore unless he's practically forced to.

At this point, you've got other owners openly talking about him being removed - and suggesting that it probably should happen - I'd say he's on the way out.

(guess Rivera gets another kill added to his total; that's two now)

Less than accused of maybe but let’s not merit nondisclosures. That’s why rich people pay them. So others can say such things.

fug that. You pay for them, I’m assuming the worst.

No one spends millions on multiple nondisclosures and then sells his billion dollar company only after his own private investigation (lol) wasn’t going to fly for petty poo.

fug JR he should’ve went to prison.

Edited November 11, 2022 by onmyown

[YourLastThought]

23 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Less than accused of maybe but let’s not merit nondisclosures. That’s why rich people pay them. So others can say such things.

fug that. You pay for them, I’m assuming the worst.

No one spends millions on multiple nondisclosures and then sells his billion dollar company only after his own private investigation (lol) wasn’t going to fly for petty poo.

fug JR he should’ve went to prison.

So what exactly should he have went to prison for? I understand disciplinary action but prison, I don't know what he did to merit prison. Verbal sexual harassment and saying racist comments is what we know of correct? Did he do something terrible that I am not aware of? 

[onmyown]

34 minutes ago, YourLastThought said:

So what exactly should he have went to prison for? I understand disciplinary action but prison, I don't know what he did to merit prison. Verbal sexual harassment and saying racist comments is what we know of correct? Did he do something terrible that I am not aware of? 

You’re asking the wrong question. Instead of asking me what you’re not aware of you should be asking yourself what did JR paid millions for and gave up his billion dollar company he started from scratch for, so that we would never find out?

You’re not aware of it because he paid millions out to multiple victims for nondisclosures.

You simply don’t do that if it’s not serious.

But the NDAs worked because here you are asking these questions. You’re literally proving the benefit of paying victims to shut up. And it’s fuged up.

NDAs are bought to minimize and make things go away. They influence people to think ‘well we don’t know what happened’.

That is a series flaw in the legal system because in manipulates people’s perceptions and numbs logic.

Like I said, no one pays millions and forfeits a billion dollar company for petty poo - especially an uptight businessman. Can anyone argue that? This is the critical thinking part that is brushed to the side. Why?

A poorer man would be behind bars. 

I work in the system and this is how it works.

Paying for NDAs should be looked at with disgust, mistrust, and above all guilt/condemnation. Then they’ll go away.

But as you see, your statement represents exactly how they’re looked at, and perpetuate the fact that money will always run the system. I find that fuged up.

Edited November 11, 2022 by onmyown

[Mr. Scot]

6 hours ago, stratocatter said:

That is the mark of a demanding perfectionist if you want me to be honest. Is that what you want to be? That’s who you are? 
This is why I would not discuss Rhule blah blah with you early in the year.  It wouldn’t be a discussion it would be a lecture, or a point scoring exercise. For what freaking purpose?

So you can feel good about yourself, that you were smart enough to find JR’s every fault? Like with Hurney (but not Gettleman) every damn thread his name came up People know what is true btw. 
They know what you have showed them. It is all there. Imma stop now. Just saying when the discussion veers a certain way, you might look to self scout.

Do I want to be demanding of my team? Yeah, I do.

As far as Rhule, given what we know now is that really a discussion you'd want to revisit?

As to Richardson, like most of us I had a lot of hope starting out but saw how things went down the road.

Tepper? Today he's not even as successful as Richardson was, but to his credit at least he's not holding on to unsuccessful coaches and GMs for more than a decade merely because they're loyal to him.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Multiple reports all saying the same thing: Snyder and his wife have cleaned out their offices.

[Sgt Schultz]

2 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Multiple reports all saying the same thing: Snyder and his wife have cleaned out their offices.

I saw that.  The report I saw said they actually cleaned out at the end of last year. 

I'm suspect there will be a parade in the DC area when they are officially out.  Foreskin fans can generally be an insufferable bunch (like most fanbases, their long-time loyalists are saddled with the usual hangers on that can't keep their yaps contained), but they have had over 20 years of misery.

Meanwhile, I wonder what island without an extradition treaty with the U.S. their stuff was shipped to.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Multiple reports all saying the same thing: Snyder and his wife have cleaned out their offices.

Yep. Originally reported by The Athletic's Ben Standig...