The bandwagon for Grayson McCall

[ncsfinest21]

 

[ncsfinest21]

And really all his weaknesses from that scouting he has really worked on and is alot better.

[mrcompletely11]

6 hours ago, ncsfinest21 said:

 

Nothing really jumps off the screen there.  His arm looks a little weak tbh

[Icege]

There's plenty of room on the Max Duggan hype train despite all of the hookers and drugs we loaded up on.

[CPcavedweller]

On 10/31/2022 at 3:02 PM, TheCasillas said:

Woah woah woah now.... the hype is not over because of a single bad game. The kid is getting comparisons to Josh Allen for a reason. A great prospect locked into a shitty system and program. 

 

Josh Allen only threw for 1800 yards and 16tds at 6INTs his final year at Wyoming.

Will Levis is not Josh Allen. Jesus Christ this place and its hard on for P5 QB's just because they are in the ACC, Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12, or SEC. 

The question is of value. Grayson McCall may not be the next Josh Allen but there is no Josh Allen in this draft. Grayson McCall is 6'3, can move, throws with the highest level of precision into tight windows on time, with good velocity, on the move, and he works harder than anyone off the field. You don't get to where he is statistically in a "triple option" scheme without being an amazing passer, which he js.

If I can find the game against Marshall, who has a very, very good defense as Notre Dame found out, there are two throws that illustrate my point. Both happened in the 2nd quarter where he dropped a 40 yard throw through the air, on the move, into a bucket just feathering the ball over the DB. The problem was his receiver dropped one and the other one forgot where he was on the field. I'm talking a dime into a tight window on the sideline while rolling out on one and moving in the pocket on another. Big time throws.

 

[TheCasillas]

On 11/1/2022 at 6:42 AM, mrcompletely11 said:

A qb 5'10 sub 200lbs has never succeeded in the NFL.  If Young becomes a franchise guy he will literally be the first ever to do so.  You willing to risk your top 5 pick on that?  fug that

Wild stat.... the average height of the QB positon has gone down over the last ten years. In 2010 the average height for a QB in the NFL was almost 6'4. Now in 2022 we are at sub 6'3.  

Interesting to see the NFL begin to trend downward in height. Probably a meaningless stat, but it does reflect that teams are less likely to depend on height as a guiding statistic as they used to.

[TheCasillas]

Interesting thought here.... Wanted to see the height for every starting QB in the NFL right now... So I did it for yal in case you are curious.

 

Here's a look at all of the quarterbacks who are 6-foot-2 or shorter:

Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: 5-10

P.J. Walker, Carolina Panthers: 5-11

Russell Wilson, Denver Broncos: 5-11

Sam Ehlinger, Indianapolis Colts: 6-1

Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: 6-1

Taylor Heinicke, Washington Commanders: 6-1

Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: 6-1 (Gardner Minshew, Philadelphia Eagles: 6-1)

Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: 6-1

Andy Dalton, New Orleans Saints: 6-2rs: 6-2

Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers 6-2

Taysom Hill, New Orleans Saints: 6-2

Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: 6-2

Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs

Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: 6-2

Zach Wilson, New York Jets: 6-2

Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay: 6-2

 

Here are all of the QBs who are 6-3 or taller:

Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: 6-6

Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: 6-6

Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: 6-5

Daniel Jones, New York Giants: 6-5

Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 6-4

Jacoby Brissett, Cleveland Browns: 6-4

Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: 6-4

Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: 6-4

Marcus Mariota, Atlanta Falcons: 6-4

Davis Mills, Houston Texans: 6-4

Ryan Tannehill, Tennessee Titans: 6-4

Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh Steelers: 6-3

Geno Smith, Seattle Seahawks: 6-3

Derek Carr, Las Vegas Raiders: 6-3

Mac Jones, New England Patrios: 6-3

Matt Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: 6-3

Justin Fields, Chicago Bears: 6-3
 

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by TheCasillas

[mrcompletely11]

16 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Interesting thought here.... Wanted to see the height for every starting QB in the NFL right now... So I did it for yal in case you are curious.

 

Here's a look at all of the quarterbacks who are 6-foot-2 or shorter:

Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals: 5-10

P.J. Walker, Carolina Panthers: 5-11

Russell Wilson, Denver Broncos: 5-11

Sam Ehlinger, Indianapolis Colts: 6-1

Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: 6-1

Taylor Heinicke, Washington Commanders: 6-1

Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles: 6-1 (Gardner Minshew, Philadelphia Eagles: 6-1)

Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins: 6-1

Andy Dalton, New Orleans Saints: 6-2rs: 6-2

Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers 6-2

Taysom Hill, New Orleans Saints: 6-2

Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens: 6-2

Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs

Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: 6-2

Zach Wilson, New York Jets: 6-2

Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay: 6-2

 

Here are all of the QBs who are 6-3 or taller:

Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers: 6-6

Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars: 6-6

Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: 6-5

Daniel Jones, New York Giants: 6-5

Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 6-4

Jacoby Brissett, Cleveland Browns: 6-4

Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: 6-4

Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: 6-4

Marcus Mariota, Atlanta Falcons: 6-4

Davis Mills, Houston Texans: 6-4

Ryan Tannehill, Tennessee Titans: 6-4

Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh Steelers: 6-3

Geno Smith, Seattle Seahawks: 6-3

Derek Carr, Las Vegas Raiders: 6-3

Mac Jones, New England Patrios: 6-3

Matt Stafford, Los Angeles Rams: 6-3

Justin Fields, Chicago Bears: 6-3
 

 

why not do weights?  That seems to be the important aspect and most everyone on that list is well over 200lbs

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

why not do weights?  That seems to be the important aspect and most everyone on that list is well over 200lbs

I cant tell if you are joking... 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

I cant tell if you are joking... 

In regards to Yound, which this conversation is centered, the concern about him is both his height and weight but more so him being sub 200lbs.  Not sure why you think its a joke

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

In regards to Yound, which this conversation is centered, the concern about him is both his height and weight but more so him being sub 200lbs.  Not sure why you think its a joke

because weight you can change, height you can not...

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

because weight you can change, height you can not...

i see your point

[Catsfan69]

6 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

because weight you can change, height you can not...

Weight you can change to a degree.

Three different 5'10 athletes will carry different weights. 

[TheCasillas]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

i see your point

I dont know what it is about the "NFL diet" but players put on massive muscle and weight when they join the league. It's pretty crazy.... If you look at Lamar Jackson for instance.... the guy was around 210 lbs at 6'2 when he was drafted, and now he is over 230lbs and its mass, not fat. 

I just dont use weight as a counter-productive stat when it comes to the NFL. NBA? different story..... 

 

Young's rookie year is going to be rough though, bc he wont be on that diet... yet.